Trump 2.0 official thread
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Even the US diplomatic services was not able to predict the collapse of USSR until approximately 2 weeks before the August coup attempt. USSR was financially stable until Gorbachev came into power and enacted massive failed reforms. One of the biggest failure of which was the rapid abolishment of dual-track price system which introduced massive inflation and shortages. In fact, the USSR had little debt until Gorbachev went into power.
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Nobody was trying to predict any collapse, that's a fool's errand. Everyone knew the Soviet Union was finished though, when it was going to fall was impossible to predict. I remember well there were discussions about how Gorbachev was going to manage possible dissolution back in 1990. The USSR was not financially stable, it was a petrostate that lost its major income stream when the price of oil crashed in the 1980s. The reforms were an attempt to stop the bleeding.
The way I see it, Trump is more a symptom than a cause of the US' woes. The main problem is that, for the vast majority of people, Americans can sense that their standards of living have been eroding and there's no one willing to do anything about it. They went for Trump because he was one of the few politicians who said they'd do something about it.
Trump was voted into office because he was the only person who is saying he's going to protect white domination. Obama's election spooked a lot of Americans who felt their country was no longer recognizable. It had nothing to do with standard of living.
Stop promoting pseudo-history. Collapse of USSR was purely political after the liberals took over the propaganda apparatus and uncontrolled reforms and made people lose faith in their country. There was no "using violence", If they actually did it would have worked like how it did China. Do you read all your history from propaganda outlets?
What pseudo history? Propaganda made people lose faith in their country? lol!
manqiangrexue
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Exactly, absolutely. In a democracy, the president is always the symptom, not the cause or he could not have been elected. But he's a symptom that makes the cause worse, which makes the symptom worse, and so forth until either something happens (the US realizes it's too sick to compete with China and focuses on healing and mellowing out) or the whole system will go to hell and crash. I still think the US has a good buffer zone to do the former and prevent the latter.
He's coming again? WTF, he was just here! One vacation to a superior civilization per year, ok, Mr. Blew-the-whole-ammo-budget-on-seafood-parties?
That's like saying that Japan and Europe are already finished today. Yes, they are currently stagnating, but it doesn't mean they are in any real threat of collapse. In fact, Japan has been stagnant for 50 years now, doesn't mean there will be a new Republic of Ezo anytime soon.