Trump 2.0 official thread

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
15 mins between Trump and Takaichi is more like 5-8 minutes of effective substantial exchange if you account for Dual Translation and pauses for digestion.

Takaichi watching Trump throw Taiwan under the bus with his "9,500 miles war with China but China only 59 miles from Taiwan" means that Takaichi is likely going to step down from her pedestal and court China.
There wasn't even 1 minute of effective exchange. Bet she needed drugs after listening to 15 minutes of this:

"It was a wonderful meeting, very wonderful. Xi was a... very kind host. He took me around the... Forbidden City. You know they call it forbidden? Because only important people are allowed in. The most important people in the world, the best people really. They shouldn't call it a city though, it's not very big. My hotels are bigger, much bigger! They're the biggest hotels, and have the most beautiful rooms. Trump hotels are the biggest and most beautiful hotels in the world. Like my Big Beautiful Bill. It was big, so very big we would called it Bubba. Bubba... do you have the word Bubba in Japan? It's just a great word Bubba.... unlike the Democrats. They're not so great. They're not great at all. They keep spreading.... fake news. Fake news is all they can talk about those Democrats. It's "oh Trump doesn't know what he's doing, he's attacking Iran and he's loosing, loosing!" They only say that beacuse they lost the... 20...20... election. They stole that from me you know. The Democrats just lie and steal and spread fake news. Fake news.
-
Excerpt from call between Pres. Donald J. Trump and Prime Minister Sanae Takaichi"

From Trump 2.0 official thread

And that was the part that was coherent enough for them to translate and highlight!
 

Puss in Boots

Junior Member
Registered Member
China was invaded because we were too weak to defend ourselves. The US is never going to be too weak to defend against little European shits, and Japan, etc... Unless the US is beaten in WWIII into a third world nation, which is not going to happen because they have nukes, America is still going to be the world's second strongest nation.
In the 1960s and 70s, the Soviet Union even surpassed the United States in terms of momentum. Who could have imagined that it would collapse so quickly, just two or three decades later? If Russia didn't have a relatively long history and a dominant ethnic group, its situation would be far more dire. In comparison, what does the United States have?
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
In the 1960s and 70s, the Soviet Union even surpassed the United States in terms of momentum. Who could have imagined that it would collapse so quickly, just two or three decades later? If Russia didn't have a relatively long history and a dominant ethnic group, its situation would be far more dire. In comparison, what does the United States have?
A population that's more than double Russia's, high tech industries, easy lifesyle, plentiful coasts and arable land, etc... In what world do you think little carpet pests like France, UK, Japan are going to start taking chunks out of the US from continents and oceans away???
 

siegecrossbow

Field Marshall
Staff member
Super Moderator
There wasn't even 1 minute of effective exchange. Bet she needed drugs after listening to 15 minutes of this:

"It was a wonderful meeting, very wonderful. Xi was a... very kind host. He took me around the... Forbidden City. You know they call it forbidden? Because only important people are allowed in. The most important people in the world, the best people really. They shouldn't call it a city though, it's not very big. My hotels are bigger, much bigger! They're the biggest hotels, and have the most beautiful rooms. Trump hotels are the biggest and most beautiful hotels in the world. Like my Big Beautiful Bill. It was big, so very big we would called it Bubba. Bubba... do you have the word Bubba in Japan? It's just a great word Bubba.... unlike the Democrats. They're not so great. They're not great at all. They keep spreading.... fake news. Fake news is all they can talk about those Democrats. It's "oh Trump doesn't know what he's doing, he's attacking Iran and he's loosing, loosing!" They only say that beacuse they lost the... 20...20... election. They stole that from me you know. The Democrats just lie and steal and spread fake news. Fake news.
-
Excerpt from call between Pres. Donald J. Trump and Prime Minister Sanae Takaichi"

From Trump 2.0 official thread

And that was the part that was coherent enough for them to translate and highlight!
Many people, especially those who prescribe to the neoliberal belief system, would wonder why flattery from Xi works on Trump whereas complete obsequiousness from Takaichi fails. This is because they are observing it from a completely outdated frame of reference. The situation makes perfect sense when examined through the lens of prison gang politics. Obsequiousness is required from a bottom biatch like Takachi, but flattery from a powerful rival gang leader like Xi is a sign of reverence and respect, and must be reciprocated one way or the other.
 

Puss in Boots

Junior Member
Registered Member
A population that's more than double Russia's, high tech industries, easy lifesyle, plentiful coasts and arable land, etc... In what world do you think little carpet pests like France, UK, Japan are going to start taking chunks out of the US from continents and oceans away???
Maintaining national stability requires a dominant ethnic group, not just a large population. This sense of identity can凝聚 a powerful force to prolong America's existence as a nation during times of crisis, and this is precisely what the United States lacks.
Most people come to the United States in pursuit of a better life. If the United States is no longer the most powerful country on Earth, then this common goal will disappear, the high-quality immigrants who support the development of the United States will gradually disappear, and everything that the United States has now will cease to exist.
The outdated tactic of territorial encroachment has little meaning in modern society. The EU and Japan only need to cultivate some proxies in the US to complete their economic colonization of the country. The oligarchs never care what the US will become; they only care about who can make more money for them.
 

manqiangrexue

Brigadier
Maintaining national stability requires a dominant ethnic group, not just a large population. This sense of identity can凝聚 a powerful force to prolong America's existence as a nation during times of crisis, and this is precisely what the United States lacks.
1. What caused you to imagine this rule that a large number of people must be bound or dominated by an ethnic group, that they can't just work together and get along? Who told you that without a dominant ethnic group, a country will cease to exist?
2. Caucasians are the dominant ethnic group in the US. You'll say their dominance is dwindling. And I'll tell you that if you assume trends over decades or centuries, then you must think that countries like China, Japan, S Korea will cease to exist from population shortage in the future.
Most people come to the United States in pursuit of a better life. If the United States is no longer the most powerful country on Earth, then this common goal will disappear, the high-quality immigrants who support the development of the United States will gradually disappear, and everything that the United States has now will cease to exist.
Nobody came to America because they wanted to bolster the most powerful country on earth as a common goal and it doesn't matter to immigrants as long as the US economy can provide them with easy lives. This might lose significant steam once the USD is no longer dominant but America's foundation means that it's still going to maintain a solid, somewhat pleasant standard of life. It will not just fall apart and cease to exist; this is fantasy level wishful thinking. Very very few countries in the world have just fallen apart simply from being overtaken as the strongest, especially if a war is off the table due to nukes and MAD.
The outdated tactic of territorial encroachment has little meaning in modern society.
That's because you can't make shit up about Japan invading the US. If nobody cares about territory anymore, then how come almost every conflict is about pushing the borders in one's favor?
The EU and Japan only need to cultivate some proxies in the US to complete their economic colonization of the country. The oligarchs never care what the US will become; they only care about who can make more money for them.
The EU and Japan are now and are gonna be still broker than the US during Pax Sinica. (By the way, let's stop talking about the EU as one thing; it's a ton of little rat countries in a conference on how to survive. That in itself disqualifies it from a pole of power because they will stick together when times are bad, but once they gain any power to build ambition upon, they will destroy themselves from infighting during the power struggle.) Whatever they can do, the US can do better. Right now, it is America that has used proxies to colonize them. You can't flip everything around and hope it makes sense. Lions hunt and eat antelopes; when the lion is tired and beaten, antelopes don't come back to eat the lion.
 

Puss in Boots

Junior Member
Registered Member
1. What caused you to imagine this rule that a large number of people must be bound or dominated by an ethnic group, that they can't just work together and get along? Who told you that without a dominant ethnic group, a country will cease to exist?
2. Caucasians are the dominant ethnic group in the US. You'll say their dominance is dwindling. And I'll tell you that if you assume trends over decades or centuries, then you must think that countries like China, Japan, S Korea will cease to exist from population shortage in the future.

Nobody came to America because they wanted to bolster the most powerful country on earth as a common goal and it doesn't matter to immigrants as long as the US economy can provide them with easy lives. This might lose significant steam once the USD is no longer dominant but America's foundation means that it's still going to maintain a solid, somewhat pleasant standard of life. It will not just fall apart and cease to exist; this is fantasy level wishful thinking. Very very few countries in the world have just fallen apart simply from being overtaken as the strongest, especially if a war is off the table due to nukes and MAD.

That's because you can't make shit up about Japan invading the US. If nobody cares about territory anymore, then how come almost every conflict is about pushing the borders in one's favor?

The EU and Japan are now and are gonna be still broker than the US during Pax Sinica. (By the way, let's stop talking about the EU as one thing; it's a ton of little rat countries in a conference on how to survive. That in itself disqualifies it from a pole of power because they will stick together when times are bad, but once they gain any power to build ambition upon, they will destroy themselves from infighting during the power struggle.) Whatever they can do, the US can do better. Right now, it is America that has used proxies to colonize them. You can't flip everything around and hope it makes sense. Lions hunt and eat antelopes; when the lion is tired and beaten, antelopes don't come back to eat the lion.
I've spoken ill of the US for two days in a row, and I don't want you to think I'm cursing America's future.
I previously cited the example of the Soviet Union; its fall should make you aware of some potential problems the US faces. For instance, the nuclear weapons you've consistently emphasized—the Soviet Union's nuclear arsenal wasn't less than the US's, but that didn't prevent its disintegration.
The rise of the US was essentially based on its role as a global safe haven during World War I and II, attracting global elites and capital—this is an indisputable fact. The US education system is now struggling to cultivate talent outside of finance; almost all other industries rely on immigration. If the US loses its dollar hegemony, it will lose its ability to attract talent. This will further erode its technological hegemony, followed by its military hegemony. These are all foreseeable.
Regarding the issue of ethnicity, I think I didn't express myself accurately enough. What I meant was that there should be a basic consensus within a country, rather than simply emphasizing diversity. The existence of differences does not mean that these differences are correct. We cannot disregard the most basic science and ethics in order to maintain diversity.
I'm not saying all this because I want the US to collapse, but because I believe the US should find ways to prevent this from happening. Simply denying these potential threats will not help the United States; on the contrary, it will lead the United States down a path from which there is no turning back.
 
Top