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[Michael90]

Seems Trump and his advisers have come to notice India's "arrogance, protectionism and independent self interests" for what it really is. Lol

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During the interview, Mr Navarro said: “What’s troubling to me is that the Indians are so arrogant about this. They say, ‘Oh, we don’t have higher tariffs. Oh, it’s our sovereignty. We can buy oil from anyone we want.’ India, you’re the biggest democracy in the world, okay, act like one.”



Seems like Trump and his close advisers won't tolerate arrogance and pride. Lol. Interesting times we are living in. Lol

 

[plawolf]

Engines and Propellers will be imported.

It’s actually the welds I’m more worried about. Marine welding isn’t like regular welding and this is an area in particular that skill and experience is critically important.

 

[Engineer]

Not just marine welding. Welding of linings that must withstand -162 °C.

US would have better luck getting SK to transfer the territory where the shipyards sit on to the US.

 

[Hyper]

It’s actually the welds I’m more worried about. Marine welding isn’t like regular welding and this is an area in particular that skill and experience is critically important.

Is automation possible? Laser or Electron welding? Friction stir?

 

[Surpluswarrior]

Seems Trump and his advisers have come to notice India's "arrogance, protectionism and independent self interests" for what it really is. Lol

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During the interview, Mr Navarro said: “What’s troubling to me is that the Indians are so arrogant about this. They say, ‘Oh, we don’t have higher tariffs. Oh, it’s our sovereignty. We can buy oil from anyone we want.’ India, you’re the biggest democracy in the world, okay, act like one.”



Seems like Trump and his close advisers won't tolerate arrogance and pride. Lol. Interesting times we are living in. Lol

They are mad an elected President chose to buy and resell oil to increase national wealth. India must instead do democracy the way the U.S. tells them to.

 

[Michael90]

They are mad an elected President chose to buy and resell oil to increase national wealth. India must instead do democracy the way the U.S. tells them to.

Well, the thing is the US(and many others) doesn't seem to understand India's mindset/political doctrine. The thing is India has always been selfish and protective of her sovereignty and independence, due to her history with colonial struggle. So this has instilled a deep-seated suspicion of outside influence, making India wary of any international agreements or alliances which she perceives as constraining her decisionmaking. This is why even during tbe cold war, India styled herself as the leader of the non aligned mouvement and refused to take sides categorically(even when China allied with doviet Union after the communist took power in beijing snd later allied with the US when relationd soured with the Soviets) though for practical reasons they had good military ties with the Soviet Union but even so they never officially allied with the Soviets and never indulged them ideologically or economically/industrially . So people need to understand that India will never allow herself to be taking the side of a major superpower, at most they will cooperate and partner but she will never get into a formal alliance which binds her and undermines her soverignty and independent foriegn policy or national interests. If there is something she deems suites her interests then she will go for it irrespective of US/Western displeasure. We saw this with her relations with Iran, Venezuela, Russia and even N.Korea(yes they maintain relations and ties).
This is something the US and some other countries(E.U and other asian powers included) don't seem to understand. So India is bound to have issues with the West down the line in the long term just due to thid and as indias economy grows more and more.

 

[Surpluswarrior]

Certainly the Trump administration's boorish statements in favour of their own trade war with countries including India are undermining the U.S. goal of enlisting India as proxy against China.

 

[RoastGooseHKer]

Certainly the Trump administration's boorish statements in favour of their own trade war with countries including India are undermining the U.S. goal of enlisting India as proxy against China.

Actually I can understand why Washington is so pissed at Modi and the BJP Government. Washington hopes New Delhi would fully align itself against both Moscow and Beijing, pretty much turning the QUAD into some sort of quasi-military alliance and liberal bloc. Yet, not only is New Delhi supporting Moscow's war, it is also sending agents to Canada and the U.S. itself to assassinate dissidents. It is as if Washington would tolerate everything India does so long as India aligned against China. This is why India is "arrogant". It takes Washington's support and tolerance for granted.

 

[Michael90]

Certainly the Trump administration's boorish statements in favour of their own trade war with countries including India are undermining the U.S. goal of enlisting India as proxy against China.

Again, you(and many others) don't seem to understand India's political doctrine and mindset as i said before. India will still not indulge the US against China. For india her dispute with China is a biliteral issue/dispute just like her dispute with Pakistan where India forbids any power from even talking about it much less getting involved(just like Trump found out). Plus India herself is wary of the US , they never trust the US/West. However of course they will make use of US/Western ignorance on this to their benefit(FDI, economic, technological partnerships and transfer) since it suites Indias interests. However, if you think India will allow herself to be used by the US against China, then that means you don't seem to realise India's strategy/mindset.

Can you think of anything India has done for the West that helped the West against China? Lol
if anything its only due to the recent border clash where over 20 Indian troops died against China, which made Indis backtrack on many economic projects which India had allowed China to be involved in. Before that Chinese companies had a very meaningful and growing presence in India. The bloody border clash set relations between both side back by decades. This has nothing to do with the US/West. So analyse India's policy rationally and you will notice that they never negotiate with their strategic autonomy.

 

[plawolf]

Is automation possible? Laser or Electron welding? Friction stir?

Industrial welding robots are used on a massive scale in car manufacturing. But those are very thin metal in comparison to what typically needs welding in marine welding. And the welding robots are massive.

Automated welding is fine when you have lots of repetitive welds you can feed into a manufacturing line. But in shipbuilding you have most of the welds in confined spaces and no one has come close to developing welding robots that can do even a fraction of the kinds of welds needed to put a ship together. More to the point, the task is so daunting, no one is even trying to develop a robot to replace human welders for this role.