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manqiangrexue said:
His reversal of American policy makes America seem mad, but his idea makes a lot of sense by itself.

1. Ukraine did fuck up; it should have realized that it's a Slavic nation next to Russia so turning against Russia will be nothing but pain and stupidity. The lowliest kind of people are those who fight against their own blood; Ukraine deserves to be ended, no mercy.

2. Trump realizes this is a war that the West cannot win. The longer it drags out, the more it will drain American and Western resources that should be dedicated to the tech war against China. The longer it drags out, the more total Russia's victory will be and the worse the final lines will be drawn, so he needs to take the pain and end it now... if Putin will allow it.

The biggest problem is that Trump can't get around the incredible loss of confidence this will cause in America's leadership of the West, which is exacerbated by his attacks on them whether it be policy threats, tariffs or direct annexation. That problem is entirely self-inflicted.
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He can always gain confidence by annexing Canada and Greenland.
 
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SlothmanAllen said:
You aren't making any peace without including one of the combatants of said war in the peace talks.

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Betting line on American economic depression by end of 2026?

Also, America is rapidly heading towards a Suez Crisis moment where they realize they really don't have the power and influence they thought they did.
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This round of tariffs won't happen. He will take some photos in TSMC Arizona and call it a day.
 
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manqiangrexue said:
His reversal of American policy makes America seem mad, but his idea makes a lot of sense by itself.

1. Ukraine did fuck up; it should have realized that it's a Slavic nation next to Russia so turning against Russia will be nothing but pain and stupidity. The lowliest kind of people are those who fight against their own blood; Ukraine deserves to be ended, no mercy.

2. Trump realizes this is a war that the West cannot win. The longer it drags out, the more it will drain American and Western resources that should be dedicated to the tech war against China. The longer it drags out, the more total Russia's victory will be and the worse the final lines will be drawn, so he needs to take the pain and end it now... if Putin will allow it.

3. There will inevitably be some warming of relations between Russia and the US, (then the EU as they slowly accept defeat), which will be some relief from the nonstop Sino-Russian entwinement over these last 2 years that is terribly horribly bad for any American/Western future attempt to squeeze China (or Russia).

However, all this might be too little too late. Russia likely already sees that it can get whatever it wants in negotiation or keep taking it for free and the bonds formed between Russia and China will be extremely difficult to cut/reduce given both countries have seen what their combined powers do against the West. Another problem is that Trump can't get around the incredible loss of confidence this will cause in America's leadership of the West, which is exacerbated by his attacks on them whether it be policy threats, tariffs or direct annexation. That contributor to the problem is entirely self-inflicted.
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Too complicated for him. He has no opinions, only opinions formed by whom he has last talked to on an issue.
 
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iewgnem said:
One can hope he follows through, one can hope.
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But again getting it through to his supporters is impossible. Trump is like a God Emperor to them. Even Donald Trump would fail to meet their expectations of Trump they have created in their mind. I expect it to collapse in 2028, as I don't see Vance having even a fraction of Trump's pull.
 
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siegecrossbow said:
He can always gain confidence by annexing Canada and Greenland.
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Confidence of his constituents that are too stupid to know that treating your friends like crap is a bad thing but for any friends of America, not going to fill them with anything less then fear or dread. In the case of Canada, frothing levels of hate but for Greenland, a sudden desire for sovereignty. Still all of this is avoidable but then again, this is trump we are talking about
 
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jiajia99 said:
Confidence of his constituents that are too stupid to know that treating your friends like crap is a bad thing but for any friends of America, not going to fill them with anything less then fear or dread. In the case of Canada, frothing levels of hate but for Greenland, a sudden desire for sovereignty. Still all of this is avoidable but then again, this is trump we are talking about
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"I am glad to hear that you consider them friends," said Dumbledore. "I was under the impression that they are more in the order of servants."
 
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jiajia99 said:
Confidence of his constituents that are too stupid to know that treating your friends like crap is a bad thing but for any friends of America, not going to fill them with anything less then fear or dread. In the case of Canada, frothing levels of hate but for Greenland, a sudden desire for sovereignty. Still all of this is avoidable but then again, this is trump we are talking about
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As I said in my post above. To his supporters he is their God Emperor.
 
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