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dingyibvs

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Just found this gem.



A startup CEO teaching Apple about production in the US, claiming that production cost is around the same if not only slightly higher.

For context this company, Purism, that only assembles in the US and has since its first smartphone product in 2018, had sales numbers in the tens of thousands total.

Of course, production cost would be about the same if you are producing in such small numbers and considering this company has never been able to scale says it all.

Their phone has 4GB of RAM, 128GB of storage, uses a Cortex A53 based processor (typically used as the little battery saving cores in flagship devices) and sells for $1999.
 

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Trump Says China ‘Not Easy’ as Trade Talks to Continue Tuesday​

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Representatives for both nations ended their first day of negotiations in London after more than six hours at Lancaster House, a 19th century mansion near Buckingham Palace. The talks concluded around 8 p.m. London time. The advisers will meet again Tuesday at 10 a.m. in the British capital, the official said.
“We are doing well with China. China’s not easy,” Trump told reporters at the White House on Monday. “I’m only getting good reports.”
Bessent told reporters in London they had a “good meeting” and Lutnick called the discussions “fruitful.”
Specifically, the Trump administration is prepared to remove a recent spate of measures targeting chip design software, jet engine parts, chemicals and nuclear materials, people familiar with the matter said. Many of those actions were taken in the past few weeks as tensions flared between the US and China.
“The very, very high-end Nvidia stuff is not what I’m talking about,” Hassett said, adding that restrictions would not be lifted on the Nvidia H2O chips that are used to train AI services. “I’m talking about possible export controls on other semiconductors which are also very important to them.”

The US's modus operandi:
1) Sanction another country. If that country does not retaliate or has no means of a retaliation, nothing further is needed.
2) If the other country retaliates, wait for sometime and arrange a meeting to negotiate.
3) Few days before going into negotiation, sanction something else.
4) Negotiate the other country to reverse their retaliation for 1 in exchange for US reversing 3.
5) US gets away with 1.
6) Sometime later reimplement 3, which now becomes the new 1 and continue the loop.

This time also looks like that's what US is trying to achieve. According to these statements what the US is willing to undo is bans on EDA, Jet Engines, Nuclear materials and chemicals. All of that were done in the last few days in preparation for a potential meeting to negotiate RE. Also all of these bans were done by sending letters to the individual companies rather than putting it into a published BIS rule.
 
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dingyibvs

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I would not be surprise if it's main customers are like some partner MLM that gets their entire cult to buy it
Says in the article that his customers are mostly the government. There are some super security conscious people who buy their stuff as well. However, two more points about their phones.

1) He says their MIC phone is only $50 cheaper to produce than his MIA phone ($600 vs $650). That's complete bullsh1t. His MIC phone is a 3GB/32GB phone with the same processor from 2015. A Tecno phone with far better specs in every way wholesales for $30 a piece on Alibaba.

2) If you look at his company's reddit page, customers have waited 1-3 years for the phone after payment.
 

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Trump Says China ‘Not Easy’ as Trade Talks to Continue Tuesday​

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The US's modus operandi:
1) Sanction another country. If that country does not retaliate or has no means of a retaliation, nothing further is needed.
2) If the other country retaliates, wait for sometime and arrange a meeting to negotiate.
3) Few days before going into negotiation, sanction something else.
4) Negotiate the other country to reverse their retaliation for 1 in exchange for US reversing 3.
5) US gets away with 1.
6) Sometime later reimplement 3, which now becomes the new 1 and continue the loop.

This time also looks like that's what US is trying to achieve. According to these statements what the US is willing to undo is bans on EDA, Jet Engines, Nuclear materials and chemicals. All of that were done in the last few days in preparation for a potential meeting to negotiate RE. Also all of these bans were done by sending letters to the individual companies rather than putting it into a published BIS rule.
Lol Yeah a good tactic.. Now let's see if the Chinese negotiators gonna fall for it.
 

Matcher6130

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Their phone has 4GB of RAM, 128GB of storage, uses a Cortex A53 based processor (typically used as the little battery saving cores in flagship devices) and sells for $1999.
This company, Purism, is probably better known for their "Librium" Laptop, Phone, and Linux distro.

It's hot garbage, and I'm not saying to be mean. Look anywhere with tech enthusiasts including their own forums and it's countless complains about hardware QC issues and overall crappy engineering. Their Linux distro is advertised as highly secure, but it's so unstable people opted for other security-hardened distros like Qubes OS. Yes you'll also find good things to say and I'm willing to believe it. But that leads to the second problem.

Purism has been around since 2014, and their hardware has been available for sale since 2020. They can't even use the "we're a startup" excuse anymore considering Framework exists, was founded in 2020, and fixed the majority of hardware issues with greatly improved QC in just two years. Prism's failures are entirely on their leadership at this point.

On a personal level, the spec sheet you listed is... odd? RAM and Storage parts would be sourced from Micron Inc. based in Idaho. Not only is their fab huge they're a major supplier of LPDDR5X DRAM and UFS NAND chips. So why is the Liberty Phone skimping? Is the extra $50 in profit really that important?
 

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About 700 Marines mobilized to LA, Trump says he’d support Governor Gavin Newsom arrest​

  • About 700 U.S. Marines were mobilized to support the California National Guard to protect federal personnel and property in Los Angeles.
  • President Donald Trump said that he would support arresting California Gov. Gavin Newsom for purported obstruction of federal immigration enforcement actions in LA.
  • Newsom and state Attorney General Rob Bonta said they would sue Trump and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth for deploying National Guard troops to deal with protests.
About 700 U.S. Marines were mobilized Monday to support the California National Guard to protect federal personnel and property in Los Angeles during protests there, officials said.

The mobilization of the Marines from their base in Twentynine Palms, California, is temporary, to give time for additional National Guard troops to arrive.

Earlier Monday, President Donald Trump said he would support arresting California Gov. Gavin Newsom for purportedly obstructing federal immigration enforcement actions in Los Angeles.

Trump’s comment came shortly before Newsom and state Attorney General Rob Bonta said they would sue Trump and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth for deploying National Guard troops to deal with protests over those enforcement actions.

The suit will ask a judge to rule that Trump’s federalization of the California National Guard was unlawful and to set aside the president’s order.

The civil complaint will argue that Trump’s action violates the U.S. Constitution and exceed his authority under federal law related to the National Guard because it occurred without Newsom’s consent or input, and because it was not warranted, Bonta said.

Trump’s action was the first time a president had activated a state’s National Guard since 1965 without a request from a governor.

“We have a winning case here,” Bonta said during a press conference.

Newsom, in a social media post, said Trump “flamed the fires and illegally acted to federalize the National Guard,”

“The order he signed doesn’t just apply to CA,” Newsom wrote in the post on X. “It will allow him to go into ANY STATE and do the same thing.

“We’re suing him.”

Bonta, in a statement outlining what he said was the failure of Trump’s order to meet the criteria of federalizing the state’s National Guard, said, ”Let me be clear: There is no invasion. There is no rebellion.”

“The President is trying to manufacture chaos and crisis on the ground for his own political ends,” Bonta said.

“Federalizing the California National Guard is an abuse of the President’s authority under the law – and not one we take lightly.

Newsom’s office, in a social media post about the Marines’ mobilization, wrote, “From our understanding, this is moving Marines from one base to another base.”

“At this time, the information we have is that Marines are not being deployed (there is a difference between that and being mobilized),′ ” Newsom’s office said in the post on X. “The level of escalation is completely unwarranted, uncalled for, and unprecedented — mobilizing the best in class branch of the U.S. military against its own citizens.”

Trump’s comment about arresting Newsom came in response to questions about his border czar, Tom Homan, who threatened to arrest Newsom, LA Mayor Karen Bass, and anyone else who obstructed immigration enforcement actions in California.

“I would do it if I were Tom. I think it’s great. Gavin likes the publicity but I think it would be a great thing,” Trump said.

Newsome, in a tweet, replied to Trump’s statement.

“The President of the United States just called for the arrest of a sitting Governor. This is a day I hoped I would never see in America,” Newsom wrote.

“I don’t care if you’re a Democrat or a Republican this is a line we cannot cross as a nation — this is an unmistakable step toward authoritarianism,” the governor wrote.

Meanwhile, federal prosecutors charged labor leader David Huerta with felony conspiracy to impede an officer. Huerta, president of SEUI California, was arrested on Friday during a protest in L.A.

He appeared Monday in federal court, a judge ordered him released on a $50,000 bond, and warned him to keep away from federal agents and federal operations.

Newsom on Sunday asked Trump to remove the California National Guard from scenes of demonstrations in Los Angeles. Trump had signed an order on Saturday night deploying 2,000 National Guard troops to the protests.

“This is a preview of things to come,” Newsom said in an interview with Brian Taylor Cohen that he embedded in his tweet about the planned lawsuit.

“This isn’t about L.A., per se. It’s about us today, it’s about you, everyone watching tomorrow,” the Democratic governor said.

“This guy is unhinged. Trump is unhinged right now, and this is just another proof point of that,” said Newsom.

Trump defended his decision in a social media post Monday.

“We made a great decision in sending the National Guard to deal with the violent, instigated riots in California,” he said in a post on Truth Social.

“If we had not done so, Los Angeles would have been completely obliterated,” said Trump.

Trump called Newsom “incompetent,” and said the governor and L.A. Mayor Karen Bass should be thanking him, saying “YOU ARE SO WONDERFUL. WE WOULD BE NOTHING WITHOUT YOU, SIR.”

“Instead, they choose to lie to the People of California and America by saying that we weren’t needed, and that these are “peaceful protests,” Trump wrote. “Just one look at the pictures and videos of the Violence and Destruction tells you all you have to know.”

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., accused Trump of engaging in a “diversion” by deploying the Guard.

“Donald Trump — in the midst of a war with Elon Musk and his ugly tax bill that would rip healthcare from 17 million people — is in desperate need of a diversion,” Schumer said in a statement.

“His order to deploy the National Guard in California is unnecessary, inflammatory, and provocative. Trump should immediately revoke his command to use the National Guard, and leave the law enforcement to the governor and the mayor, who are more than capable of handling the situation,” Schumer said.

“Americans do not need or deserve this unnecessary and provocative chaos.”
 

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Trump to deploy another 2,000 National Guardsmen to LA as state sues administration​

President Donald Trump has ordered the Department of Defense to deploy an additional 2,000 California National Guard troops to the Los Angeles area to support ICE amid ongoing protests in the city.

“At the order of the President, the Department of Defense is mobilizing an additional 2,000 California National Guard to be called into federal service to support ICE & to enable federal law-enforcement officers to safely conduct their duties,” Pentagon spokesperson Sean Parnell said in an X post Monday.

The same day, the state of California filed a lawsuit against the Trump administration, asking a judge to declare the deployments unconstitutional.

Another 2000. If I had to guess, he is trying to crush the protests before his June 14th military parade.
 
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