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AssassinsMace

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Peter Navarro thinks just like every other Republican so why would Trump just fire him and not all of them? The reason why they want to end trade with China is because they think the US is China's only customer. Take that away and China will come begging like Trump has repeated or it will collapse. The problem is if the US is China's only customer how come Huawei that the US tried to destroy by getting the West to ban everything from Huawei made more money than ever without the US and the West as customers?
 

SinoAmericanCW

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Well, he is the one who is the top advisor to Trump and he is the most hawk about China and tariff. I think he will be sacked and Trump will blame everything to Navaro .. thats Trump anyway
I doubt it. Trump is personally tied to the tariff issue in a way unlike most other issues; he's been talking about his love for tariffs since at least 1989 and made it a major plank of his 2024 platform. It is far more likely that Trump will attempt to muddle through, with the next opportunity to score a "win" being the expiration of his 90-day "negotiation pause" with the non-China trade deficit countries.
 

SinoAmericanCW

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IMO the main point of trade talks with Europe and Japan isn't that they'll actually align with China, it's not in the nature of their culture to do so and even if they do it'll only last until Trump leaves office.

The main point of trade talks with Europe and Japan is making them believe they have leverage when they deal with America, making them hard to digest and in the process harm both US and themselves. If they do align with China, bonus.
I agree. Which is precisely why China shouldn't escalate; it needs to stay away from the forefront of the scene so as to allow European and Korean/Japanese minds to focus on the threat posed by Trump's America.

Even if a genuine alignment with China is very unlikely on their part, China's position will only get much stronger by January 2029 than it is now - and its position is already decent today! Besides, we're very early in Trump's term, the next phase of the trade war will focus on the traditional US partners, and with Trump in office a wider, more permanent rupture (at least with Europe) is at least conceivable, especially if the Russo-Ukrainian war is settled at some point over the next 4 years.
 

Cygnus

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The Trumptards should have kept their mouth shut and leave it alone. Because they have been getting cheap stuff from China at a much cheaper price than the rest. The World has been subsidizing their life style for decades in the form of cheap labor, reserve currency status and the SWIFT System. Now they have spooked everyone with their horrid mafia like and in-grateful behavior.


This whole tariff exercise in futility have exposed the level of education and moronic thought process these magatards possess. While EU customers have to pay VAT when importing products from around the World. The Yanks are getting it tax free and at a much cheaper price due to their currency and zero percentage import duty. Monumental morons! It is like getting shit at duty free prices and you complain about the 10 percent off.Now they have shaken the hornets nest and some form of tariff will be permanent.
 

Neurosmith

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China should just set an export tax or restriction so Trump can't get off that easily. He wanted a trade war so he gets a trade war.

It's not like China is immune from the effects of the trade war. Aside from Chinese businesses suffering from the effects of the tariffs, you also have the PBOC forcibly devaluating the Yuan, hereby decreasing the purchasing power of the average Zhou (average Chinese citizen) and also promoting capital outflow. And all of this is happening while the Chinese economy is still trudging from the leftover effects of COVID.

If China's government has its citizens in its ear, it would see this opportunity as an off-ramp. It's very rare to see someone like Donald Trump give these signals; this is as close to "let's negotiate" as you're ever going to get with someone like Trump.

Of course, there is the possibility that the exemptions have nothing to do with Chinese pressure, in which case all of the above is moot.
 

fishrubber99

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I don't think the PBOC is planning on any sort of significant depreciation. Realistically, there really isn't any degree of depreciation that can counteract 145% tariffs anyway, and the PBOC has signaled that they won't perform a drastic depreciation, from Reuters:

China's central bank will not allow sharp yuan declines and has asked major state-owned banks to reduce U.S. dollar purchases, people with direct knowledge of the matter said on Wednesday.

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HighGround

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Peter Navarro thinks just like every other Republican so why would Trump just fire him and not all of them? The reason why they want to end trade with China is because they think the US is China's only customer. Take that away and China will come begging like Trump has repeated or it will collapse. The problem is if the US is China's only customer how come Huawei that the US tried to destroy by getting the West to ban everything from Huawei made more money than ever without the US and the West as customers?

Why are you thinking like there is some sophisticated logic to what Trump does? After you just saw this tariff nonsense?

If Trump fires Navarro, it's because somebody has to be blamed or punished for this mess.

If Trump doesn't fire Navarro it's probably because he doesn't want to admit that this debacle was a total failure.
 
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