Trump 2.0 official thread

[Dante80]

If China is not fully, completely, 100% ready for this hard decoupling then it really only has itself to blame. There's been PLENTY of warning since 2018.

This is going to be a firebomb in the world economy, but yes, it is inevitable.

The PRC should be ready for it, we saw it coming.

I think that this is a very big opportunity too, for China to leverage its position in the World economy, and the current US vs ALL feud and actually become the source of stability and trustworthiness worldwide. Essentially taking the place that the US already forfeited.

Now is the time for them to actually come closer to what we tend to list as traditional US allies. And use a tiered and stepped gradual approach towards converting them.

This might fail with some, but - I'm willing to guess - not all.

 

[zscstephen]

Oh Joy! 20 + 34 + 50 = 104% tariffs on Chyna, and no talks with Chyna until the Chicoms kneel!

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So guess it's time to sail a PLAN warship flotilla around Hawaii?

Shouldn't be "Yesterday" for Trump, we've got the weekend.
What if China retaliates again

Is it going to be a currency war?

 

[chlosy]

Prediction- most countries lower tariffs for US goods, , US wipes out most tariffs, but those on China remain, because that was the goal all along

 

[siegecrossbow]

I heard somewhere that Trump's tactics are based on his experiences in the mafia-infested New York real estate business in the 1970s and 1980s. I think there's something in that, The Don behaves a lot like a don.

The best way for other countries to retaliate would be against US service exports. In particular, EU should implement some sort of digital services tax. Trump seems blissfully unaware of the existence of service exports and international capital flows.

All those late night Godfather watching sessions at Zhongnanhai are paying dividends…

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[iewgnem]

Oh Joy! 20 + 34 + 50 = 104% tariffs on Chyna, and no talks with Chyna until the Chicoms kneel!

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So guess it's time to sail some PLAN warship flotilla to circle around Hawaii?

Oh he's desperate for talks, but it seems like China's strategy is no talks until America dies.

 

[lcloo]

What if China retaliates again

Is it going to be a currency war?

USA has surplus balance in non-good services, like insurance, banking, financial services, movies etc. This is one area China has not yet touch on. Thus China has another card that they can use in next round.

The surplus in favor of US is not much, but still substancial at US52 Billion. And if Tik Tok is banned, US's surplus on services will be far more than $52 Billion .

In 2024, the U.S. registered a services trade surplus with China amounting to approximately $52 billion.

Overview of Trade in Services​

In 2024, the United States maintained an overall positive balance in its trade of services with China. The trade in services includes a wide range of sectors such as travel, financial services, intellectual property licensing, and professional services. The U.S. exports of services to China exceeded imports, contributing to a significant surplus.

Detailed Breakdown​

According to the data for 2024:

• Total U.S. Exports of Services to China: Approximately $122 billion.
• Total U.S. Imports of Services from China: Approximately $70 billion.
  This results in a calculated services trade surplus of about $52 billion for the U.S. in its trade relations with China.

Factors Influencing the Surplus​

1. High Demand for U.S. Services: There continues to be robust demand for U.S. services in China, particularly in professional, financial, and educational sectors.
2. Limited Chinese Exports of Services: China’s service sector has not expanded as rapidly in the international market compared to its manufacturing sector, influencing the trade balance in favor of U.S. services.

Conclusion​

The substantial services trade surplus reflects the ongoing strength and competitiveness of U.S. services in the global market, particularly within rapidly developing economies like China. This amount of surplus highlights a crucial aspect of the economic relationship between the U.S. and China, amidst other varying trade dynamics including goods.
Thus, while the overall goods trade balance has shown significant deficits, the services sector remains a resilient area for U.S.-China trade relations.

Also, China is holding around $760 billion US Treasury bills in last disclosure, they could sold these bills in a damaging manner to US if they choose to do so.

 

[Ringsword]

Oh Joy! 20 + 34 + 50 = 104% tariffs on Chyna, and no talks with Chyna until the Chicoms kneel!

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So guess it's time to sail some PLAN warship flotilla to circle around Hawaii?

Only shows China has hit Trump hard with this 34% punch-XJP&Company don't lose your nerve-hold on -the orange buffoon is actually feeling the Chinese hits as his tariff blows are bouncing off Chinese armour and his world is reeling/tanking-well done.

 

[Aegis21]

Prediction- most countries lower tariffs for US goods, , US wipes out most tariffs, but those on China remain, because that was the goal all along

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Seems like everyone in the Trump cabinet thinks they're on the verge of a manufacturing renaissance. Not sure they would entertain dropping tariffs as it runs against their collective delusion.

 

[siegecrossbow]

My greatest fear indeed for the next few months/years-financial bloodbath,massive geopolitical chaos,deep recession/depression globally(except fortress China hopefully) and just read Trump's deluded fantasyland fuhrer bunker hate antiChinese rant-Chinese DON'T want war but these hateful crazed loons will use their only remaining ace card-military conflict-I pray China has 2-3 aces to make these monsters(think of your own people's wellbeing first Trump!!)think twice,no 3 times before pushing all of us into the abyss.

Wumaos in the U.S. better talk smack about orange furher now. It’ll be camping time soon, even for those who suck up to the Trump government.

 

[zscstephen]

Only shows China has hit Trump hard with this 34% punch-XJP&Company don't lose your nerve-hold on -the orange buffoon is actually feeling the Chinese hits as his tariff blows are bouncing off Chinese armour and his world is reeling/tanking-well done.

The 34% tariffs China imposed should go into effect on 10th, but Trump is rushing to add 50% tariffs on 9th, which is the same date his 34% tariff be effective. I mean they give up the opportunity to wait and see.

I have no idea what Trump is worrying about, unless the rare earth restrictions have taken huge impact or those tariffs could hit his political base very hard.