Trump 2.0 official thread
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My greatest fear indeed for the next few months/years-financial bloodbath,massive geopolitical chaos,deep recession/depression globally(except fortress China hopefully) and just read Trump's deluded fantasyland fuhrer bunker hate antiChinese rant-Chinese DON'T want war but these hateful crazed loons will use their only remaining ace card-military conflict-I pray China has 2-3 aces to make these monsters(think of your own people's wellbeing first Trump!!)think twice,no 3 times before pushing all of us into the abyss.
Perhaps Vietnam should consider moving the entirety of their VinFast production line to the US in order for Trump to lower their tariffs instead?
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Must/Navarro spat. I wonder how much longer Musk can stay in place as part of Team Trump?
Trump adviser Navarro dismisses Elon Musk as 'car assembler' after 'zero tariff' comments
Donald Trump’s top trade adviser, Peter Navarro, on Monday dismissed tech-billionaire Elon Musk’s push for “zero tariffs” between the United States and Europe, calling the Tesla CEO a “car assembler” reliant on parts from other countries.
Navarro, widely seen as the architect of Trump’s tariff plans, told CNBC Musk had done a good job with his work to streamline government, but his opposition to duties was not surprising, the latest salvo in a growing feud between the Trump advisers.
“When it comes to tariffs and trade, we all understand in the White House - and the American people understand - that Elon is a car manufacturer, but he’s not a car manufacturer. He’s a car assembler,” Navarro said, adding that many Tesla parts came from Japan, China and Taiwan.
“What we want, and the difference in our thinking and Elon’s on this, is that we want the tires made in Akron, we want the transmissions made in Indianapolis,” he said.
On Saturday, Musk said that he hoped for “a zero-tariff situation” in a video-link interview with Matteo Salvini, Italy’s deputy prime minister and the leader of the far-right League party, during a League congress in Florence.
At the end of the day, I hope it’s agreed that both Europe and the United States should move ideally, in my view, to a zero-tariff situation, effectively creating a free-trade zone between Europe and North America.
His comments come after Trump’s Wednesday announcement of 20% tariffs on goods from the EU.
In an exchange that same day on his social media platform, X, Musk slammed Navarro, who has championed the tariffs.
“A PhD in Econ from Harvard is a bad thing, not a good thing,” Musk said about Navarro’s academic background, adding: “He ain’t built sh*t.”
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Trump adviser Navarro dismisses Elon Musk as 'car assembler' after 'zero tariff' comments
Donald Trump’s top trade adviser, Peter Navarro, on Monday dismissed tech-billionaire Elon Musk’s push for “zero tariffs” between the United States and Europe, calling the Tesla CEO a “car assembler” reliant on parts from other countries.
Navarro, widely seen as the architect of Trump’s tariff plans, told CNBC Musk had done a good job with his work to streamline government, but his opposition to duties was not surprising, the latest salvo in a growing feud between the Trump advisers.
“When it comes to tariffs and trade, we all understand in the White House - and the American people understand - that Elon is a car manufacturer, but he’s not a car manufacturer. He’s a car assembler,” Navarro said, adding that many Tesla parts came from Japan, China and Taiwan.
“What we want, and the difference in our thinking and Elon’s on this, is that we want the tires made in Akron, we want the transmissions made in Indianapolis,” he said.
On Saturday, Musk said that he hoped for “a zero-tariff situation” in a video-link interview with Matteo Salvini, Italy’s deputy prime minister and the leader of the far-right League party, during a League congress in Florence.
At the end of the day, I hope it’s agreed that both Europe and the United States should move ideally, in my view, to a zero-tariff situation, effectively creating a free-trade zone between Europe and North America.
His comments come after Trump’s Wednesday announcement of 20% tariffs on goods from the EU.
In an exchange that same day on his social media platform, X, Musk slammed Navarro, who has championed the tariffs.
“A PhD in Econ from Harvard is a bad thing, not a good thing,” Musk said about Navarro’s academic background, adding: “He ain’t built sh*t.”
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I don't know how long this economic war against the ROW will last. I think the ROW's strategy will be to give Trump something he can call a victory, like lowered tariffs (e.g. what Vietnam and Taiwan have offered, and perhaps the EU too) without submitting to a full Plaza Accord style agreement, and see if domestic pressure is enough to convince him to back down. I think that's a possibility. In my assessment there simply isn't that much America's existing allies can give at this point, and the real target will have to be China.
Oh Joy! 20 + 34 + 50 = 104% tariffs on Chyna, and no talks with Chyna until the Chicoms kneel!
So guess it's time to sail some PLAN warship flotilla to circle around Hawaii?
So guess it's time to sail some PLAN warship flotilla to circle around Hawaii?
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And so on in an endless round of retaliation until mutual tarrifs are at 1000% and all US-China trade ceases.
If China is not fully, completely, 100% ready for this hard decoupling then it really only has itself to blame. There's been PLENTY of warning since 2018.
If China is not fully, completely, 100% ready for this hard decoupling then it really only has itself to blame. There's been PLENTY of warning since 2018.
I think people are mischaracterizing Trump as an isolationist. He is really just an imperialist (see Greenland or Panama) using tariffs and coercion to divide the world into vassals (Vietnam comes to mind) and "enemies." Anyone who doesn't immediately grovel for him is in the latter camp. The real danger is if this logic transfers from economic warfare to kinetic warfare.