Trade War with China

SteelBird said:

Seem nobody care about the launch of 5G in England?

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I've heard, but don't even recall where

SteelBird said:

How many percent of Huawei tech is used?

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good question

here's
What about Huawei?
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5G: Finally, it's here in the UK - so what is it?

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A shadow hanging over all the networks' 5G plans is a possible ban on the use of Huawei's telecoms equipment because of security concerns.

Last month, it looked

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of the Chinese company's 5G antennas and masts - but Prime Minister's Theresa May's resignation means things are now less clear.

Barring the company's infrastructure would prove a major headache for the operators.

EE and Vodafone would have to strip out some of their existing Huawei kit, which does double-duty for both 4G and 5G.

Both have indicated that if their engineers had to replace it, that would slow their ability to roll out 5G.

Telefonica's O2 hasn't widely deployed Huawei's equipment to date but is engaged in a network-sharing agreement with Vodafone, so would still be affected.

And Three

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to use the Shenzhen-based company's 5G products.

All of which means that while the UK is one of the first European countries to launch 5G, it could still end up taking longer to expand it nationwide than many of its continental counterparts.

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Stil using Huawei product
Huawei expands 5G footprint in Europe despite US crackdown

By Chen Qingqing Source:Global Times Published: 2019/5/31


An EE advertisement appears on a newspaper on the day the mobile network operator has officially launched the 5G service in London, Britain, May 30, 2019. Mobile network operator EE said on last Wednesday that it would launch Britain's first 5G service in six major cities on May 30th. (Xinhua/Han Yan)

Huawei has not played down its 5G ambitions as it continues pushing forward its deployment of 5G technologies not only in the Chinese market but overseas as well, as it launched the first 5G service in the UK while eyeing closer collaboration with other European countries.

A BBC morning show was aired on Thursday over a 5G network supported by Huawei equipment, the first of its kind in the UK.

After South Korea and the US, the UK has become the third country in the world to achieve 5G commercial use, as its major carrier EE launched 5G mobile services in, among other places, London, Cardiff, Edinburg and Belfast.

In collaboration with Huawei, EE provides a network speed from 100 to 150 megabits per second (Mbps), according to a document seen by the Global Times on Friday. About 450,000 users registered to upgrade their network services to 5G, and many of them lined up Thursday morning in front of the carrier's shop in London to have a test of the next generation of wireless technologies.

Huawei has been a key partner of UK networks as they bring their 5G services to the market, from an infrastructure and devices perspective, Ben Wood, UK-based mobile and wireless industry analyst at CCS Insight, told the Global Times on Friday.

"Not being able to sell Huawei smartphone is frustrating, but any ban on using Huawei infrastructure would be a major blow to the speed with which 5G can be rolled out in the UK," he said.

The US clampdown on Huawei has been weighing on its smartphone business, as Google restricted part of its Android license to the Chinese firm. However, Huawei has not been intimidated by the cut-off from US companies, which also disrupted the global supply chain.

While Washington has been repeatedly lobbying European countries, urging them to reject Huawei equipment for so-called national security reasons, many countries have ignored the US while continuing to allow Huawei to bid and roll out core parts of network infrastructure.

Some European countries consider China more reliable than the US in terms of doing business, seeking closer cooperation with the second-largest economy in the world. For instance, China was ranked third behind Germany and France, according to a survey which focused on political and economic conditions affecting international trade by Frankfurt-based Commerzbank, media reported.

And China has outperformed the US as a trustworthy trade partner. Among 115 German companies thinking of relocating their production facilities overseas, 31 percent were reportedly thinking about China and nine percent to the US, the survey said.

US President Donald Trump is expected to talk about the Huawei issue when he visits the UK next week, threatening to limit intelligence sharing with the British government if it allows Huawei to build 5G networks, Financial Times reported on Friday.

"This attempt will eventually end up failing, as carriers and customers know which company could provide better products to achieve their 5G goals," an industry insider surnamed Jiang told the Global Times on Friday.

The success of the first 5G service backed by Huawei will be the strongest argument for the UK to continue working with the Chinese company, he said.

The Shenzhen-based company will also continue expanding cooperation with European countries, including Russia, as the company has signed agreements with local carriers, a Huawei spokesperson told the Global Times on Friday.

Revenues from Europe, Africa and Middle East accounted for 28.4 percent of Huawei's total in 2018, the second-largest contributor after Chinese market.

localizer said:

They misdeliver all the time lol. Fedex is horrible.

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I suspect they also deliberately divert packages.

Earlier this week, Huawei, the world’s largest telecoms equipment supplier, accused FedEx of unauthorised re-routing of its packages. It said the packages had been sent from Japan and were bound for its offices in China, but had been diverted to the US.

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Good luck for their future operations in China.

now I read this
Commentary: U.S. self-contradictory approach leads nowhere
Source: Xinhuanet| 2019-06-01 22:09:30

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The United States' pursuing an "America First" policy contradicts its self-proclaimed image of a paragon of "free trade" and "fair trade" and exposes its hypocritical nature.

For some time, the United States has been willfully pursuing its "America First" policy by blatantly setting trade barriers, violating multilateral trade rules and undermining fairness and justice. This poses serious harm to the world economy, including the United States itself and also tarnishes its national image.

Washington has abused its superpower status by bypassing the World Trade Organization’s dispute settlement mechanism and unilaterally initiated international trade disputes based on its domestic law.

Over more than a year, the U.S. side has wielded a "big stick" of protectionism against many of its trade partners and arbitrarily imposed high tariffs on imports from China.

Only recently, the United States has increased additional tariffs on 200 billion U.S. dollars' worth of Chinese goods from 10 percent to 25 percent.

This aggravated the year-long trade friction between the world's top two economies despite their 11 rounds of trade talks.

Adding tariffs can not address the real ills of the U.S. economy; instead, it will only harm U.S. farmers, increase costs for American consumers and businesses, rattle financial markets and threaten global growth.

When widespread suspicion and market turmoil were triggered, the U.S. side shifted the blame to China.

Actually, the United States is to blame for the failed trade talks as it has adopted a totally self-contradictory attitude and often used flip-flop tactics.

Facts speak louder.

On one occasion, the U.S. side said the trade talks with China were going "very smoothly," while on another occasion, it accused China of "pulling back and breaking its promises."

In May last year, during Chinese Vice Premier Liu He's visit to Washington, the two countries agreed not to engage in a trade war.

But only days later, the Trump administration said it will impose a 25-percent tariff on 50 billion U.S. dollars' worth of Chinese imports.

Then in December, the two sides agreed on the value of Chinese purchases of U.S. goods, but the United States deliberately raised the asking price in subsequent negotiations.

Furthermore, the U.S. side has gotten into the bad habit of saying one thing while doing another.

Often, the United States claimed that it would develop a cooperative partnership with China, while labeling China as an opponent with fabricated excuses and intention to contain China’s development.

"Without credit, a man can not establish oneself, neither does a nation to prosper."

These self-contradictory moves have damaged U.S. long-term interests and disgraced Washington's credibility as a responsible major country.

As the world's largest economy and the only superpower, the United States is expected to match words with deeds and desist from engaging in bullying.

Clearly, a trade war has no winners.

The China-U.S. trade friction can only be solved through consultation and dialogue under the principle of equality, mutual respect and mutual benefit.

Decision-makers in Washington need to have a clear understanding that bullying isn't the solution to its trade disputes and get back on the right track as soon as possible.

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localizer said:

Hard to prove unless you have some anti tampering mechanism in the packaging to show US opened it for espionage or somethin. I’ve had packages rerouted btw countries all the time. It’s just how their logistics work.

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You've seen FedEx rout packages to the wrong country all the time? I once had these idiots track a package to me as delivered, but I found nothing, called them, then they said that after investigation, their supervisor was on board the delivery vehicle this morning to overlook operations so there was certainly no error and a porch thief must have stolen it so there was nothing they could do. 4 hours later, it shows up at my door because it turns out, they delivered it to another address (not in my immediate area because I checked all my neighbor's doors) and the owner was kind enough to find my address and drop it off at my door.

I'm fairly certain this was not an innocent mistake by FedEx, though just like all of you, I'm not 100% certain. I can understand if a package that said Austria went to Australia but you typically don't confuse packages that say People's Republic of China with USA or vice versa. I think this is a great time to stop using FedEx or any other American company and raise up a Chinese international delivery service. A huge part of America's exports to China are services like these so cutting them is going to be the service sector equivalent of tariffs. Someone had previously mentioned a couple but I don't recall which companies they were.

putting qualcomm on china entity list would signify certain death for them.

styx said:

putting qualcomm on china entity list would signify certain death for them.

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gotta wean off their tech first tho, the time will come...

manqiangrexue said:

You've seen FedEx rout packages to the wrong country all the time? I once had these idiots track a package to me as delivered, but I found nothing, called them, then they said that after investigation, their supervisor was on board the delivery vehicle this morning to overlook operations so there was certainly no error and a porch thief must have stolen it so there was nothing they could do. 4 hours later, it shows up at my door because it turns out, they delivered it to another address (not in my immediate area because I checked all my neighbor's doors) and the owner was kind enough to find my address and drop it off at my door.

I'm fairly certain this was not an innocent mistake by FedEx, though just like all of you, I'm not 100% certain. I can understand if a package that said Austria went to Australia but you typically don't confuse packages that say People's Republic of China with USA or vice versa. I think this is a great time to stop using FedEx or any other American company and raise up a Chinese international delivery service. A huge part of America's exports to China are services like these so cutting them is going to be the service sector equivalent of tariffs. Someone had previously mentioned a couple but I don't recall which companies they were.

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We use carriers, whether FedEx, UPS, or DHL for international shipping, at least 10 thousands delivery a year to mainly USA and other part of world from China, delay often, to wrong locations, never, let along wrong counties. And you tell me, it should be shipped to China from Japan, but went to USA? You know what happened!!

Nathan Rich aka Hotpot King, takes on Bloomberg's anti-Huawei articles. Huawei should sue Bloomberg for slander.



This also needs to be watched.

AssassinsMace said:

Could be the act of an individual Fed Ex employee acting alone or by request of a third party. Anybody remember Congressman David Wu? After the Wen Ho Lee scandal, he had an appointment with the head of the Department of Energy but was denied entry into the building because he was Chinese by a Marine guard.

When I first heard about this Fed Ex incident I thought it was being delivered from the US and then intercepted which the US does all the time. Now that there were two different packages shipped all within Asia being diverted to the US, intentional interception is a possibility and wouldn't be surprising. All it takes is a Fed Ex employee working for customer service on a company system computer to divert a package doing his or her patriotic duty.

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I think the package can easily be opened and its content thoroughly examined before being repackaged as a totally "untouched" parcel. They have all the stamping equipment or delivery processing tools to do just that.