Trade War with China

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Air Force Brat

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West is not America, i'm italian and i don't like USA and their culture and i know quite well them (various travels and relatives there). Also americans are divided, you are talking about white america that is now a minority. China must operate like russia on a major scale to disrupt american politics and reset their system. If they want to emerge without a war they must act with intelligence to undermine rotten american politics act with intelligence like sun tzu said thousands of years ago.

Heh! Heh! yeah,enjoy your freedom,it was bought and paid for with English, Canadian, and American blood in WWII, we moved to defend those under attack by fascists lead by Hitler and Mussolini, two of the most famous murdering thugs in history....

There are a lot of proud Americans,who are proud of their Italian heritage, they introduced me to Polenta, they would disagree with you vehemently, that's why their parents immigrated here, for freedom and opportunity.

I ride a Pinarello, and I'm damn proud of that, I built it up from a very expensive frame, but it took a hell of a lot of finish machining to install the seat tube and bottom bracket, I'm proud to save I have an "Italian bottom bracket", manufactured with exquisite precision by Shimano!

Jens Stoltenburg is proud to have America supporting NATO, and thankful for Mr. Trumps help?? so Europe is divided too, isn't it, in fact we have a FACO for the F-35 in Italy, so you tell me, we built it there because of overwhelming Italian support....
 

styx

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Heh! Heh! yeah,enjoy your freedom,it was bought and paid for with English, Canadian, and American blood in WWII, we moved to defend those under attack by fascists lead by Hitler and Mussolini, two of the most famous murdering thugs in history....

There are a lot of proud Americans,who are proud of their Italian heritage, they introduced me to Polenta, they would disagree with you vehemently, that's why their parents immigrated here, for freedom and opportunity.

I ride a Pinarello, and I'm damn proud of that, I built it up from a very expensive frame, but it took a hell of a lot of finish machining to install the seat tube and bottom bracket, I'm proud to save I have an "Italian bottom bracket", manufactured with exquisite precision by Shimano!

Jens Stoltenburg is proud to have America supporting NATO, and thankful for Mr. Trumps help?? so Europe is divided too, isn't it, in fact we have a FACO for the F-35 in Italy, so you tell me, we built it there because of overwhelming Italian support....

You invaded my country and vast majority of fighting partisans where pro communist not pro american (except sicilian mafia) and we are talking about 80 years old events. It was only an alliance of convenience. So it is now, wait and you will see great parts of europe being more pro china or pro russia than pro america. Also bigger defense spending in nato countries will undermine the alliance in the medium term trust me. And Freedom is only an empty word, only stupid hollywood propaganda for simple minds in my opinion. And i don't care nothing of your bike or your braket trust me. Or you want that i tell you about my wonderful xiaomi cell and Huawei laptop?
 
West is not America, i'm italian and i don't like USA and their culture and i know quite well them (various travels and relatives there). Also americans are divided, you are talking about white america that is now a minority. China must operate like russia on a major scale to disrupt american politics and reset their system. If they want to emerge without a war they must act with intelligence to undermine rotten american politics act with intelligence like sun tzu said thousands of years ago.
LOL! while reading this I thought I heard ...
trumpet ...
band joins ...
singing ... Avanti o popollo, alla riscosa,
Bandiera rossa, bandiera rossa ...

styx
at least it's now possible to figure what you meant
#3497 styx, Yesterday at 1:09 PM
(which sounded foolish or trollish)
it's time for china to enter in "preparing for world war mode" time to double every year the defense budget and initiate actions to disrupt american interests in all the world. Just like Soviet Union.
let's wait and see if China follows your Soviet Union
 
now I read
Fresh round of China-U.S. trade talks start in Washington
Xinhua| 2019-01-30 23:07:27
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China and the United States kicked off here on Wednesday morning a new round of high-level talks to address their differences on outstanding economic and trade issues.

The talks, scheduled for two days, mark a significant step in the implementation of the important consensus reached by Chinese President Xi Jinping and U.S. President Donald Trump during a working dinner in Buenos Aires, Argentina, on Dec. 1.

The two heads of state agreed back then that the two sides should try to reach a mutually beneficial and win-win agreement within 90 days to bring an early end to their months-long trade friction featuring massive tariffs on imports from each other.

The world is watching these talks closely, with many hoping for some substantial, positive progress to be made.

Analysts have warned that the lasting trade tension between the world's two largest economies would not only impact their own businesses, workers and consumers, but also stoke global market fears of uncertainty and disruption, and erode confidence in the long-term global economic growth.
 

styx

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LOL! while reading this I thought I heard ...
trumpet ...
band joins ...
singing ... Avanti o popollo, alla riscosa,
Bandiera rossa, bandiera rossa ...

styx
at least it's now possible to figure what you meant
#3497 styx, Yesterday at 1:09 PM
(which sounded foolish or trollish)

let's wait and see if China follows your Soviet Union

i'm not communist but i really don't like americans their "values", their propaganda and above all their consumerist society.
 

Air Force Brat

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You invaded my country and vast majority of fighting partisans where pro communist not pro american (except sicilian mafia) and we are talking about 80 years old events. It was only an alliance of convenience. So it is now, wait and you will see great parts of europe being more pro china or pro russia than pro america. Also bigger defense spending in nato countries will undermine the alliance in the medium term trust me. And Freedom is only an empty word, only stupid hollywood propaganda for simple minds in my opinion. And i don't care nothing of your bike or your braket trust me. Or you want that i tell you about my wonderful xiaomi cell and Huawei laptop?

Sure, tell me all about em, I'm all ears, the Americans NEVER invaded your country, we liberated the poor people of Italy and the Germany from two murderous thugs! we didn't "occupy" Europe, we kicked Mussolini and Hitlers ass then went home, Italy and the whole of Europe prospered under their new freedom, and became a powerful people in their own right.....

but hey, tell your own story, if you're happy with your xiaomi cell phone and your Huawei laptop, I'm all for it, buy as many as you want??

I'm not against you?? but I don't want you importing your ideology to the USA, and you can keep that hate, I'm happy with my country, and I've NEVER said a bad word about yours........
 

gelgoog

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American propaganda has become particularly atrocious ever since the Soviet Union collapsed. When they stopped having someone who kept them honest. Then Western Capital started their free for all in XIXth century like robber baron fashion as usual. They even believe their own propaganda and turned it into a religion much like the Communists did with Karl Marx the capitalists do so with Ayn Rand and Milton Friedman. Meanwhile, while the world is wealthier than ever, the less consumer power regular working people have. Their opinions are not heard and no one cares about the teeming masses plight. You have people like Mitt Romney trying to pretend he's middle class by going to a supermarket and making an ass out of themselves. It is pathetic really. Just watch this.

Capitalism at it's best at the world's richest nation. Meanwhile in 'miserable' Russia diabetics are provided with insulin for free by the state health care system and Russia produces enough insulin to both satisfy its internal needs and even a surplus for export.
 

localizer

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u should see the hate some of us get in our daily lives and can’t do anything about it cuz of trump/trade war

i grew up, 4.0gpa til end of PhD, never fought, never in trouble, not even a speeding ticket, pay $30k in taxes every year, just wanna live alone and quietly in a corner, but been called names since I could remember, I thought I was a good American, guess it wasn’t enough cuz my looks
 
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Equation

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Sure, tell me all about em, I'm all ears, the Americans NEVER invaded your country, we liberated the poor people of Italy and the Germany from two murderous thugs! we didn't "occupy" Europe, we kicked Mussolini and Hitlers ass then went home, Italy and the whole of Europe prospered under their new freedom, and became a powerful people in their own right.....

but hey, tell your own story, if you're happy with your xiaomi cell phone and your Huawei laptop, I'm all for it, buy as many as you want??

I'm not against you?? but I don't want you importing your ideology to the USA, and you can keep that hate, I'm happy with my country, and I've NEVER said a bad word about yours........



You're really hilarious. Your armed forced entered Italy without the permission of the official government resulting in the death of their leader. Your opinion of him doesn't matter. That is the textbook definition of an invasion. If we used your twisted logic, there would be no such word as invasion; it would all be "liberation" whenever a country attacked another one.

Doesn't matter if you want the ideology in the US. Freedom of thought/speech? Talk the talk, walk the walk. Ask Trump to build an ideology wall then, with $.57 billion ideological dollars... The actions of your nation bring hate on itself; don't blame others that it's here.
 
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