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There is only one truth in China-US trade
China Plus Published: 2018-07-13 16:16:37

Note: The following is an edited translation of a commentary on the U.S.-initiated trade dispute from the Chinese-language "Commentaries on International Affairs (国际锐评)".

You might have noticed that the United States has repeatedly used "301 investigations" as a cover for its trade attacks on China. On July 10, the U.S. Trade Representative released the findings of its investigations, accusing China of illegal conduct and of taking advantage of the United States.

On Thursday, China's Ministry of Commerce responded to these accusations, refuting American claims of unbalanced trade, Intellectual Property Rights theft, forced technology transfers, and the Made in China 2025 policy. The ministry said the United States distorted facts and responded to the accusations with hard facts so the international community can judge the situation for itself.

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A man waits for the goods to be load on his tricycle at a dealer selling imported seafoods at the Jingshen seafood market in Beijing, Thursday, July 12, 2018. [Photo: AP/Andy Wong]

In its reply, the Commerce Ministry pointed out that the trade deficit between China and the United States is a result of America's low domestic savings rate, the role of the dollar as an international reserve currency, and American restrictions on exports of its high-tech products.

It is a fact of life in the United States that people spend their future earnings by financing consumption with credit, which is why households have low domestic savings. In the first three-quarters of 2017, the net savings rate in the United States was almost at a global low point, reaching a high of just 2.2 percent. To meet the American people's need to spend and the country's need to develop, it buys relatively cheap import and attracts foreign investment by running current account and trade deficits. So the American trade deficit is a result of its economic structure, rather than unbalanced bilateral trade with China.

Yale University Senior Fellow Stephen Roach warns "Without addressing the shortfall in domestic saving, the bilateral fix simply moves the deficit from one economy to others. Therein lies the cruelest twist of all. China is America's low-cost provider of imported consumer goods. The Trump deal would shift the Chinese piece of America's multilateral imbalance to higher-cost imports from elsewhere – the functional equivalent of a tax hike on American families."

Currently, over 65 percent of the world's foreign reserves are in U.S. dollars. More than 80 currencies base their exchange rate on U.S. dollars, and nearly 80 percent of transactions on foreign exchange markets are made in U.S. dollars. This gives the United States financial supremacy, because it can print dollars and issue dollar bonds in exchange for products and resources from other countries. If the United States wants their dollar to remain the leading global currency, they will inevitably maintain a trade deficit.

Trade in the high tech sector accounts for almost 40 percent of America's trade deficit with China. If the United States lifts its restrictions on tech exports, it will provide a near instant reduction in this trade deficit. The question is: Can the United States abandon its Cold War mentality and scrap these restrictions?

When it comes to the accusation by the United States that China is stealing intellectual property rights, this allegation doesn't stand up to close scrutiny. China has established comprehensive protections of intellectual property that covers areas including copyrights, trademarks, patents, and commercial secrets. Courts have been set up in Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou specifically to deal with intellectual property rights cases. And more and more foreign enterprises have been coming to China to have these cases heard. Last year, the courts ordered three shoe manufacturers in China to pay 10 million yuan (1.5 million U.S. dollars) to New Balance for trademark infringements, the largest sum a foreign company has ever been granted in compensation in China in a case of this kind.

At the same time, China's payment of external intellectual property fees increased by 17% annually since 2001, reaching US$28.6 billion in 2017. The World Intellectual Property Organization recently announced that China has submitted 51,000 patent applications through the Patent Cooperation Treaty, second only to the United States. And China is now more eager than ever to see foreign governments strengthen their protection of China's intellectual property rights.

On the issue of the so-called "forced technology transfers", there are no laws in China that mandate transfers of intellectual property for technology from foreign companies to their domestic partners in China. In the past 40 years, China has never signed any agreements on forced technology transfer, and "technology transfer" has never been a condition for foreign investment.

Contracts are the essence of the market economy. Technology transfers between enterprises are based on voluntary exchanges. Many foreign companies, including American ones, localize general technology and collect patent and technology transfer fees from cooperative enterprises in exchange for access to the market in China. Recently, former U.S. Treasury Secretary Larry Summers said in an interview with American media that the leading position of some companies in China is not the result of them stealing American technology; rather, it is the result of outstanding entrepreneurs who have benefited from huge government investments in basic science and from an education system that promotes excellence and focuses on science and technology.

Finally, when it comes to American accusations against China's industrial policies, including "Made in China 2025", many insightful people have noted that the purpose of the U.S. Section 301 investigation is to suppress China's new high-tech manufacturing industry and inhibit China's development. The United States has an "advanced manufacturing partnership program" and Germany has its "Industry 4.0" policy. Why can't China have its own manufacturing development plan?

Looking specifically at the question of industrial subsidies, the United States government provides land subsidies, tariff reductions, loans, industrial facilities, and research and development support. It is difficult to see how Silicon Valley could be as innovative and prosperous as it is today without government assistance.

"Made in China 2025" is a market-oriented, open, and inclusive development plan. Yes, the government is playing a leading role. But the government has stressed repeatedly that "Made in China 2025" treats domestic and foreign companies equally and invites foreign companies to participate in the construction and development of China's manufacturing industry. Enterprises from United States, Germany, and United Kingdom among others are already taking part.

It is clear that the United States is adopting a double standard to curb the development of China's advanced manufacturing industry. This hegemonic behavior reflects the inability of the White House to solve the structural problems in the United States, and its desire to foist this responsibility onto others. It also reflects the Trump administration's deep uneasiness about China's development, which it is trying to nip in the bud.
 
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China’s Imports to U.S. Ports Peaking Early Amid Tariff Threat
Chinese imports to U.S. ports rose more than expected in June, suggesting that some retailers moved up orders to insulate themselves from an intensifying trade war that threatens to send up costs on a growing number of consumer products.

Retailers such as Walmart Inc and Amazon.com face uncertainty due to U.S. President Donald Trump’s threat to impose more tariffs on Chinese goods, and the jump in imports from the country was likely because of “pre-emptive buying in anticipation of the tariffs,” said Ben Hackett, founder of international maritime consultancy Hackett Associates.

“This is a bump that isn’t quite normal,” he said.

The U.S. container port peak season is traditionally driven by orders for Chinese-made clothing, electronics and toys for the back-to-school season running from June to September, and then the winter holiday season.

The volume of loaded shipping containers from China to all U.S. ports was up 6.3 percent in June from a year earlier after falling 6.9 percent in May and 3.9 percent in April, said Gene Seroka, executive director of the Port of Los Angeles, the busiest U.S. container port and No. 1 hub for ocean trade with China.

Seroka’s data was sourced from IHS Markit’s PIERS and analyzed by Port of Los Angeles staff.

Data about specific products and buyers, which is compiled from paperwork filed when goods are delivered, was not immediately available.

China said on Friday exports unexpectedly accelerated in June. Officials previously said that Chinese exporters were front-loading shipments to the United States to get ahead of expected tariffs.

Walmart and Amazon declined to comment.

Trump has vowed to reset the United States’ global trade agreements, which includes a threat to impose tariffs on more than $500 billion worth of Chinese goods. Retailers, who place orders for general merchandise up to a year in advance, can offset additional costs by raising prices or finding new suppliers in countries not subject to import levies.

On July 6, the U.S. imposed 25 percent tariffs on $34 billion of Chinese goods, including flash drives, remote controls and thermostats, from a list of $50 billion in products first proposed in April. China quickly fired back with tariffs on an equal value of U.S. goods, including soybeans, whiskey, cotton and automobiles.

Those are unlikely to immediately affect retailers.

The Trump administration raised the stakes in the trade battle on Tuesday with a plan to add 10 percent tariffs on $200 billion worth of Chinese goods, including furniture, handbags, pet food, refrigerators, textiles and auto parts.

That new round could hit during the autumn lead-up to the all-important Christmas and winter holidays. Many products purchased for that season will have arrived at ports well ahead of the imposition of the new levies.

There are some indications that other industries have employed forward buying to avoid tariffs.

Automakers hailed more ships in May in an apparent scramble to bring vehicles to the United States to pre-empt potential tariff increases. The ports of Baltimore, Jacksonville, Florida; and Brunswick, Georgia – the three leading U.S. ports for importing automobiles – that month unloaded a combined 23,000 more cars than they did a year earlier, according to port data, port officials and logistics companies.

Michael Binetti, an analyst at Credit Suisse, said the latest round of proposed tariffs, if implemented, could catch retailers like Restoration Hardware Inc, Williams-Sonoma, Michael Kors and Tapestry in the crosshairs.

Home furnishings seller Restoration Hardware on Friday said it sourced about 40 percent of its products from China in fiscal 2017. It expects to reduce that to around 35 percent fiscal 2018 and to as little as 25 percent in fiscal 2019.

In the long run, “I don’t think that the U.S. ports will be any kind of issue,” Binetti said. “The boats will be coming in from Vietnam instead of from China in the same volumes.”
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Ultra

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Very high chance that if US cannot get what they want and prevail in a trade war which is asking China for IP protection and no state sponsorship for tech development and China will not agree. Then after two yrs of futile trade war and suffered economically as a result, US would launch military assault on China man made islands in SCS.
Better be prepared ! China better have stealth fighters in large number ready at SCS! Trade war can't be win will translated into military assault.



Wait, didn't I say that quite a few pages back? :D

BTW, once the war started it won't end with just SCS.
 

Ultra

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How does attacking China in the SCS help resolve the US problems with China in a trade war?o_O China is NO Iraq, Afghanistan or Libya to trying to regime changing through force? The US will be suffering high casualties for a bunch of islands thousand of mile away from the homeland and you think the American people will be supporting that? You obviously haven't noticed the many sufferings of PTSD, cost and social problems that ten of thousands of service members are going through JUST by going through the Middle East conflicts with a 3rd world countries after over a decade there.


You obviously live in a hole and never seen the real world.

You HUGELY over estimated the average american intelligence.

1952, Korean war, lots of casualties, but american quickly forget about it and got drag into Vietnam war, which lasted for a long while and with massive casaulties and again after the war ends, americans forget. Then came 1st Gulf War and then Afganistan and 2nd Gulf War..... Did American public remember? of course not. Did they support it? HELL YES. They love getting maimed and killed! There is no other explanation because they just keep voting in parties that gets them into wars for no good reason.

There is an old saying - "You live by the sword, you die by the sword".
 
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manqiangrexue

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If I remember correctly soybean harvest is around September in the northern hemisphere so the harvest in Brazil will be around March.
What is PRC going to do till then?
Alter people's lifestyles. There's no rule that says Chinese people MUST consume the same amount of soybeans no matter what. Several forces are going to come into play:

1. China's increasing its own soybean production.
2. China's sourcing more soybeans from non-US countries.
3. These countries, including Russia, are increasing their soybean production in response to Chinese demand.
4. Much of the soybeans from the US is fed to pigs; Chinese consumption of pork is dropping.
5. The Chinese government encourages a dietary decline in red meat for the health of its citizens; this can cause pork consumption to fall further.
6. Chinese people can eat other things; if you couldn't buy rice, you wouldn't die or try to ransack your own government, would you? You'd eat noodles, bread, etc... instead.
 
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manqiangrexue

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You obviously live in a hole and never seen the real world.

You HUGELY over estimated the average american intelligence.

1952, Korean war, lots of casualties, but american quickly forget about it and got drag into Vietnam war, which lasted for a long while and with massive casaulties and again after the war ends, americans forget. Then came 1st Gulf War and then Afganistan and 2nd Gulf War..... Did American public remember? of course not. Did they support it? HELL YES. They love getting maimed and killed! There is no other explanation because they just keep voting in parties that gets them into wars for no good reason.

There is an old saying - "You live by the sword, you die by the sword".
In the real world, when has the US dared to attack a large nuclear nation capable to lobbing nukes at Washington? The US literally doesn't even dare strike NK just because it's close to China and might have a functioning nuke.
 

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Iran nuclear deal: US rejects EU plea for sanctions exemption

Anyways, getting back on topic, it looks like the Americans are set to open up a second front on its global trade war.

The EU, Russia and China do not want to scrap the Indian deal. But the US has now effectively said that if they don’t also abandon the deal, the US will impose sanctions on the world.

Would be interesting to see if the EU has the balls to slap counter sanctions on the US if Trump makes good on his threats.

I think both Russia and China will let the EU take the lead on this. If the EU slap counter sanctions on the US, Russia and China will happily pile in. But if the EU chicken out, the Iran deal is dead in any case, so no need for Russia or China to stick their necks out to try and save it.
 

SteelBird

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Anyways, getting back on topic, it looks like the Americans are set to open up a second front on its global trade war.

The EU, Russia and China do not want to scrap the Indian deal. But the US has now effectively said that if they don’t also abandon the deal, the US will impose sanctions on the world.

Would be interesting to see if the EU has the balls to slap counter sanctions on the US if Trump makes good on his threats.

I think both Russia and China will let the EU take the lead on this. If the EU slap counter sanctions on the US, Russia and China will happily pile in. But if the EU chicken out, the Iran deal is dead in any case, so no need for Russia or China to stick their necks out to try and save it.
My prediction is that there is high probability that EU may chicken out. EU is not China and it's on the same alliance with the US. Further, I doubt that the second front that you mention is more like a show than a real trade war. One more front you may over look, India. The US is having problem with India planning to purchase S-400 from Russia but that's another story.
 
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