Torpedos, are they still useful in a surface battle?

Lavi

Junior Member
Re: Tropedos, are they still useful in a surface battle?

Of course this is all a matter of distance/sonar conditions. In short ranges and/or good sonar condtions doors opening betray the bearing. However, the noice level of a shkval runing is not really comparable of that of a ordinary torpedo. The shkval is also, probably, a straight running torpedo without any homing device, meaning that, as opposed to a ordinary torpedo which can turn after launch, you can plot the bearing to the vessel it was fired from exactly.

Now, the most simple question I think when discussing this matter is, 'why on earth is the Russian Navy (and soon the German) the only one with super-cavitating torepdoes if they are the war winning weapon they are claimed to be?" The US perhaps has been quite conservative, their Mk-48 works so they haven't been intersted in any newer models. But what about the RN? They have developed several new world class torpedos over the years.
 

MIGleader

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Re: Tropedos, are they still useful in a surface battle?

Lavi said:
Of course this is all a matter of distance/sonar conditions. In short ranges and/or good sonar condtions doors opening betray the bearing. However, the noice level of a shkval runing is not really comparable of that of a ordinary torpedo. The shkval is also, probably, a straight running torpedo without any homing device, meaning that, as opposed to a ordinary torpedo which can turn after launch, you can plot the bearing to the vessel it was fired from exactly.

Now, the most simple question I think when discussing this matter is, 'why on earth is the Russian Navy (and soon the German) the only one with super-cavitating torepdoes if they are the war winning weapon they are claimed to be?" The US perhaps has been quite conservative, their Mk-48 works so they haven't been intersted in any newer models. But what about the RN? They have developed several new world class torpedos over the years.

cause their the only nations that have persued such technology with a passion to make it real. and they did. america, france, britain, and china probably all have supercavitating reaserch, but arent there yet. its like asking why russia is the only nation with plasma tech.
 

sumdud

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Re: Tropedos, are they still useful in a surface battle?

With most torpedo's range, they are rather useless, at least against ships.
But their punch is big.
But with rocket-torpedos like ASROC or SS-N-15, it's compensated.

If the torpedo is hyperfast and makes a lot of noise then. It should create a big sound wave, good enough for a decoy.

Now this belongs to the World section, doesn't it?
 

coolieno99

Junior Member
Japan has the fastest torpedo and it's electrically driven. Even though Russia has the slowest torpedo, but it has the longest range ... :coffee:

United States Mk48 Adcap Thermal 30Km(65kts) Wire guided and
50Km(40Kts) passive/active
acoustic homing


Russia SET-65KE Thermal 50Km(60Kts) Wake Homer
100Km(30Kts)


Japan Type 89 Electric/ 30Km(70Kts) Active/Passive
Battery
(Ag/Zn)
 
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KlubMarcus

Banned Idiot
Torpedoes are good for sinking enemy supply and merchant ships. Some of them are so huge that a deck gun just wouldn't do. :nono:
 

sumdud

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It was the first use of a nuclear-powered submarine in war.
??? How does a nuclear powered submarine work?

I'd guess that a ASROC used against ships would be very dangerous? Long range, high speed of a ASM until 5km from the ship, and then the torpedo is launched outside CIWS range, and then it hits the ship,(Likely unjammed.) creates a bubble, and kills the ship much better than what ten ASMS can do.

But China's torpedos....... they are a mess.......
 
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