Torpedos, are they still useful in a surface battle?

Tropedos were dreaded weapon ever seen is was invented. It is still one of the most effective ASW weapon. But how useful is it against surface ship these days? I haven't heard any surface tropedo attack even since the 70ties. Chinese Navy use the little reverse engineered Yu-7. I think that is too old and out of date.

what da ya bloke/shela think? (Do we have female member here?

lazzy

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lazzydigger said:

Tropedos were dreaded weapon ever seen is was invented. It is still one of the most effective ASW weapon. But how useful is it against surface ship these days? I haven't heard any surface tropedo attack even since the 70ties. Chinese Navy use the little reverse engineered Yu-7. I think that is too old and out of date.

what da ya bloke/shela think? (Do we have female member here?

lazzy

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If used by submarines, very effective.

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MK 48 ADCAP test a year or two ago. Damnnnnnnnnnn.

by the way, there is no effect counter torpedo system. Russia deploys one, but they claim only a 70% probably of success.

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I posted this on another thread but it is just so cool that I have to post it again.

target ship vs Mk 48 ADCAP torpedo

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If you guys go to yahoo and type in sinkex in the search box yopu will get all sorts of pics od ships being sunk by the USN mostly.

Torpedos launched by subs are indeed an effective weapon. Here is a pic of the ex-USS Okinawa LPH-3 being attacked by a MK-48 ADCAP after it had been hit by several missiles and bombs that did not cause it to sink. The MK-48 struck amidships and sank the old LPH. Please read the text in the link posted.

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lazzydigger said:

Tropedos were dreaded weapon ever seen is was invented. It is still one of the most effective ASW weapon. But how useful is it against surface ship these days? I haven't heard any surface tropedo attack even since the 70ties. Chinese Navy use the little reverse engineered Yu-7. I think that is too old and out of date.

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The most recent use of torpedo attack (in battle) against surface ship that I know of is the sinking of the ARA Light Cruiser General Belgrano (~12,000 tons) by HMS submarine Conqueror on May 2, 1982. It was the first use of a nuclear-powered submarine in war.

The HMS Conqueror used 3 conventional "straight running" Mk 8 mod 4 torpedos, each with 800 lb / 363 kg warhead, of which 2 hit the General Belgrano and sunked it:


If you think the Yu-7 is old...

The MK 8 torpedo that the British submarine used was originally designed in 1911 by Bliss-Leavitt, as USN's first 21" (533mm) torpedo. :rofl:

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vincelee said:

MK 48 ADCAP test a year or two ago. Damnnnnnnnnnn.

by the way, there is no effect counter torpedo system. Russia deploys one, but they claim only a 70% probably of success.

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if you can sucessfully fire your torpedo, the enmy is going to have a hard time avoiding it. there is not anti torpedo gun. thats why china is concentrating so heavily on subs. how does the russian system work? jamming or actuall decoy rokets?

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It is all great. The pics are impressive. But I am interested is Tropedo lunch from a surface ship to attack another surface ship. Like the destroyer charges in WWII or Tropedo Boat attack the PLAN use on ROCN 50 years ago.

Tropedo as the main weapon of a sub, it is highly effective and deadly. It enjoy the stealth lunch from a sub. How ever when Anti-ship missle is on every boat, are they still as valuable as before in Ship to ship combat? No Subs!

Lazzy

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Most torpedos deployed onboard surface ships are lightweight designs with limited ranges. These torpedos are mostly useful against submarines. If I was close enough to use one, I would rather use my main gun. Quicker and more efficient use of weapons.

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you guys got this all wrong.

A modern torpedo doesn't aim to priece the hull of a ship but explodes near the ship to cause a viod where there is no water.

This is called a hydroshock.

This creates a pocket of air which cause the ship to sink.


This is how it works with a sub to sub engagement but the principle is the same


Regards,

Chinawhite