To those who serve/served in the armed forces: WHAT DO YOU ENVY ABOUT THE PLA?
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To ta true commander, the importance of logistics is not lost.
To show the importance of this, consider the US plan for the initial invasion of Iraq. Some commanders advocated using a force that was equal in size to the one used in Desert Storm. However, CENTCOM concluded that objectives would be achived faster with a smaller force because the area where the delay would be caused was not in front of the tanks, it was on the roads behind them where fuel etc. had to be brought up. Less combat troops equals less logistical need to support them. In addition, the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force had as many units guarding the convoys as it did pushing deeper into Iraq. the entire campaign was built around logistics.
To show the importance of this, consider the US plan for the initial invasion of Iraq. Some commanders advocated using a force that was equal in size to the one used in Desert Storm. However, CENTCOM concluded that objectives would be achived faster with a smaller force because the area where the delay would be caused was not in front of the tanks, it was on the roads behind them where fuel etc. had to be brought up. Less combat troops equals less logistical need to support them. In addition, the 1st Marine Expeditionary Force had as many units guarding the convoys as it did pushing deeper into Iraq. the entire campaign was built around logistics.
Maybe in Finland. Not in the US. Even though guys will complain about the chow it is really pretty good. Espically in the USN...Great Chow.
I can attest to USN food being good. The few times I went out, I stressed myself out about not gaining weight.
My job didn't allow alot of free time for exercise. The food on a tin can may not be as good as it is on a carrier or submarine, but us in the Surface Navy ate quite well also.I'd love to know what the people on PLAN vessels eat.
All of those various vehicles you named for the US forces also give them extensive tactical fighting capaibility. Particularly when you include the huge comm advantage and battlefield awareness capabilities.
The PLA does have a lot of different types, but they are of many varying ages and dispositions which makes for a logistical and maintenance nightmare in any large scale mixed or joint operations. We field less types precisely to avoid those problems...and I believe that the capabilities of those we field exceeds the capabilities of most forces the US will concievably face.
I would not want to trade the LAVs, Bradleys, Strykers, and Abrams for the equipment the PLA fields, though I am sure the PLA personnel are justifiably proud of their own equipment and service.
I know that some of us sometimes sound like real nags but you can think of it as professional disorder. You see when you are in army there is always someone ho will bitch how you didn't do this or that the right way.
Naturally after some time you will stop doing mistakes but you will also start noticing every single mistake you or someone else is doing. And after some time you will start bitching when you notice this mistakes
Not to mention that you will also bitch because it is to hot, to cold, to wet, to dry, to bad, to perfect or any other to ...
By the way, what about the Type-63A? Isn't that the best amphibious tank in the world, mainly because no one else makes amphib tanks anymore?
Food pics:
Linked to CDF, an indispensible forum for following the Chinese military. Awfully quiet 90% of the time, with news articles to inflate forum post counts, but on the few threads that actually stir conversation, you can find quite a few knowledgable guys.
6088 is what really gets me. I was utterly shocked at that banquet... looks like they're using fringe benefits to enable recruitment.
Food pics:
Linked to CDF, an indispensible forum for following the Chinese military. Awfully quiet 90% of the time, with news articles to inflate forum post counts, but on the few threads that actually stir conversation, you can find quite a few knowledgable guys.
6088 is what really gets me. I was utterly shocked at that banquet... looks like they're using fringe benefits to enable recruitment.
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well that looks more familiar, thank you....its actually quite nice to see how similar the everyday soldier life must be, no matter what army you serve....It was almoust like I could imagine everyone of those guys thougths when you see them dooing them....but those chinese way of making the folded bed lines seems a bit torture...compared to our way of doing it...
Maybe the banquet was just for a photo op?
Because>>> I really don't understand how the PLA would have any trouble recruiting. Why? The population of China is 3 billion 300 million. The PLA has 2.1 million members. The US has 300 million residents. With an armed force of 2 million. So why would the Chinese have to resort to a great banquet to recruit members? The number of persons of recruiting age is very large. They should have no problems....