The War in the Ukraine

TMA1

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The Europeans are even more radicalized and pro-war right now. The ukrainians are very much pro-war. They think they have the upper hand.

So the only way Russia gets peace is if they make major concessions. Likely withdrawal will be demanded.

I think we are looking at the defeat of Russia at this point. If Putin is asking for peace, he is asking to surrender.
Well let's see who can raise the stakes. Who has a greater out of the gate MIC or MIC ecosystems?

Who has the greater morale? The nation fighting an existential proxy war on its very borders, or those instigating said proxy war thousands of klicks from home in order to regime change their foe?

When citizenry is drafted who do you think will wish to fight more? Those defending their homeland or those defending a puppet state far away from their borders?

Who has a larger nuclear stockpile with weapon systems capable of delivering them? Who has the better ABM systems that give regions a chance at survival?


These weirdo elites in power can only escalate there are many reasons for this beyond the geopolitical and strategic methods they use. It has deeper psychological underpinnings to it and this is imo the scary part. As things get worse I highly expect the "atlanticist" factions to turbo sperg and set even more wildly dangerous precedents between nuclear armed powers. This bellicose screeching and behavior will only increase as time passes. No the European elites will not let this go. It will get worse. They are deluded. What is that famous quote again by that venerable stoic Xeno? About the dangers of self deception leading to the destruction of knowledge? Anyways the hubris is off the charts with these elites. What deeply concerns me is nemesis always follows hubris. Will nemesis have missiles with nuclear warheads clutched in her wings?
 

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The Europeans are even more radicalized and pro-war right now. The ukrainians are very much pro-war. They think they have the upper hand.

So the only way Russia gets peace is if they make major concessions. Likely withdrawal will be demanded.

I think we are looking at the defeat of Russia at this point. If Putin is asking for peace, he is asking to surrender.

This is one of the dumbest things I've read today and I've been on Reddit, so that says something.
 

tamsen_ikard

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This is one of the dumbest things I've read today and I've been on Reddit, so that says something.
Are you saying europeans are less pro war and looking desperately for peace with Russia and accept Russian demands?

They are super energized with pro-war politicians winning in various parts of europe.

Is Ukraine even remotely ready to make concessions?

The only one talking about peace is Putin. That says something. Russia is exhausted and looking to give up
 

manqiangrexue

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Are you saying europeans are less pro war and looking desperately for peace with Russia and accept Russian demands?

They are super energized with pro-war politicians winning in various parts of europe.
The only people energized at the politicians and the people who protest it have no say. German politicians bought by the US swear they'll keep fighting even with no support from their people. The people and economy in Europe are exhausted.
Is Ukraine even remotely ready to make concessions?
Nah, they'll just keep dying and losing land. Zelensky talked too much shit about not giving up an inch of Ukrainian territory so he's hung himself on that.
The only one talking about peace is Putin. That says something. Russia is exhausted and looking to give up
That says you have poor reading comprehension after it was already explained to you what Putin meant by saying it might be close to over and it's not Russia's military push. That also says you're not educated in history. Russia doesn't tire; if its enemy cannot defeat Russia quickly, they will be worn down and defeated by an increasingly resurgent bear.
 

Soldier30

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A battle between Russian soldiers and Ukrainian FPV drones and a bunker assault. Episodes of combat between Russian assault troops from the 80th Tank Regiment, Force Group Center, in the Dnipropetrovsk area. The video shows countering Ukrainian FPV drones in the field and storming a Ukrainian stronghold. It's worth noting that a single person can counter FPV drones with considerable risk. During the assault, Ukrainian FPV drones also attacked Russian soldiers. As a result of the battle, the Ukrainian underground stronghold was captured; footage from inside is shown at the end of the video. Some Ukrainian soldiers surrendered.

 

Heresy

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Are you saying europeans are less pro war and looking desperately for peace with Russia and accept Russian demands?

They are super energized with pro-war politicians winning in various parts of europe.

Is Ukraine even remotely ready to make concessions?

The only one talking about peace is Putin. That says something. Russia is exhausted and looking to give up

I'm saying that exclaiming at this point that Russia is screwed and is on the verge of defeat is a demonstration of room-temperature IQ.
 
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