asif iqbal
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yes and they also basically just add wings to the dumb bombs from the Soviet era bombs
quick and easy
The War in the Ukraine
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yes and they also basically just add wings to the dumb bombs from the Soviet era bombs
quick and easy
Extremely bold claim tbh as no Russian bombers are made to carry those anymore, and such weapon might be impractical. They need a purpose built weapon.
The carrying capacity of the TU 160 is 40 tons, the ODAP 9000 thermobaric bomb was tested in 2007. The carrying capacity of the TU 95 is also sufficient, as we know from the Tsar Bomba test.
Of course, using this bomb near the front would only be a test of a very expensive target for the enemy's air defense. So we'll leave it as a theory, I think...
When did the last time Tu-160 carrying such payload ?
Tu-95 for tsar bomba is not a good measure tbh as the bomber has its bomb bay modified. The best analogue would be during Checnya War where i recalled the last time Tu-95 dropped FAB-9000 in anger. The thing is that, today's Tu-95 is not what Tu-95 was.
Such range, might need some big wings to attain high Lift to Drag ratio (L/D) Gliding equation is simple, range are equal to Height of drop multiplied by the L/D. Suppose you loft it from 10000 m and intend to outrange Patriot (160 km at least) You would need L/D of at least 16. Something which might not be necessarily available or expedient to attain in expendable weapon.
An episode of the work of the Russian special forces unit "GRACHI" in Ukraine, the exact location of the shooting is not reported. Russian army special forces scouts conduct reconnaissance of the area and stumble upon a temporary deployment point of the Ukrainian army, with 4 soldiers, located in one of the destroyed houses. As a result of a short firefight, one Ukrainian serviceman surrenders, the second presumably blows himself up with a grenade. The video is shortened, the dead serviceman is removed from the video.
plawolf
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For such weapons, it probably makes sense to add powered propulsion to the glide bomb kit to give the bomber sufficiently long stand-off range to not be at undue risk to enemy AD and/or fighters. A simple detachable rocket booster might be sufficient if it’s big enough. Otherwise something more bespoke may need to be developed.
Ukrainian PVD and EW station taken out by a FAB-500 with UMPK.
Russian unit flag is raised over Kalinovo.
Massive air strike on a Ukrainian PVD in Kherson.
Ukrainian positions towards the Polozhsky direction hit by NARS from Russian aviation.
Ukrainian Gvozdika SPG taken out by an Orion UAV strike in the Kursk region and an M777 gets taken out in the Belgorod direction by a Forpost-R.
Ukrainian RADA radar gets taken out by an FPV drone.
Ukrainian D-30 howitzer taken out by a Lancet in Kleban-Byk.
Orion UAV strike on a Ukrainian IFV in the Kursk border region.
Desperate drone battles over Chasiv Yar as Ukrainians try to supply trapped garrisons with drone dropped provisions while heavy hexacopter drones attempt to bomb Russian provisions. Russians use MANPADS and interceptor FPV drones to take down these heavy drones.
Ukrainian counterattack from Bohatyr swarmed by Russian drones.
There was an award ceremony for the AFU 117th Brigade in the Sumy region. As civilians and soldiers gathered in the assembly, a Russian missile arrived uninvited. Blame for the event being thrown at the powers at charge. The ceremony and the strike happened in the Sumy University. Two Iskander M missiles were fired, the first was deflected by EW but the second hit it's target. Zelensky blaming the Russians for hitting civilian targets; however there were military personnel and vehicles present, including those with a tactical sign.
Three Ukrainian Gvozdika SPGs taken out by KVN drones of the 200th Brigade in the Kramatorsk and Konstantinovka sectors.
Uragan MLRS strikes at Ukrainian positions towards Nova Poltava.
2A36 Hyacinth-B working with the Akhmat special forces.
Russian MoD confirms it is an S-400 that took down the F-16.
Russian unit flag is raised over Kalinovo.
Massive air strike on a Ukrainian PVD in Kherson.
Ukrainian positions towards the Polozhsky direction hit by NARS from Russian aviation.
Ukrainian Gvozdika SPG taken out by an Orion UAV strike in the Kursk region and an M777 gets taken out in the Belgorod direction by a Forpost-R.
Ukrainian RADA radar gets taken out by an FPV drone.
Ukrainian D-30 howitzer taken out by a Lancet in Kleban-Byk.
Orion UAV strike on a Ukrainian IFV in the Kursk border region.
Desperate drone battles over Chasiv Yar as Ukrainians try to supply trapped garrisons with drone dropped provisions while heavy hexacopter drones attempt to bomb Russian provisions. Russians use MANPADS and interceptor FPV drones to take down these heavy drones.
Ukrainian counterattack from Bohatyr swarmed by Russian drones.
There was an award ceremony for the AFU 117th Brigade in the Sumy region. As civilians and soldiers gathered in the assembly, a Russian missile arrived uninvited. Blame for the event being thrown at the powers at charge. The ceremony and the strike happened in the Sumy University. Two Iskander M missiles were fired, the first was deflected by EW but the second hit it's target. Zelensky blaming the Russians for hitting civilian targets; however there were military personnel and vehicles present, including those with a tactical sign.
Three Ukrainian Gvozdika SPGs taken out by KVN drones of the 200th Brigade in the Kramatorsk and Konstantinovka sectors.
Uragan MLRS strikes at Ukrainian positions towards Nova Poltava.
2A36 Hyacinth-B working with the Akhmat special forces.
Russian MoD confirms it is an S-400 that took down the F-16.
Zmínil jsem TU 95 jako letoun s dostatečnou nosností, např. Car Bomba vážící 27 tun. Asi by nebyl problém umístit ODAP 9000 do pumovnice. TU 160 vezl ODAP 9000 při testu v roce 2007. Nepředpokládám, že by se jeho nosnost (40 tun) od té doby snížila.
Zároveň jsem uvedl hlavní důvod, proč jsou oba bombardéry pro pumy této velikosti zcela nevhodné. Navíc i pro jiné konvenční bomby. Pro dnešní protivzdušnou obranu jsou příliš drahým cílem. Samozřejmě proti rebelům a separatistům, ale i ti mohou mít protivzdušnou obranu
how come Ukraine is able to produce so many drones, missiles and other weapons and Russia is not able to take them out. There should be some intelligence capability to figure out where these factories are located and launch missile strikes.