The War in the Ukraine

Temstar said:

This seems like Gepard in action against Shahed-136, it didn't seem to work:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1580663536883494912

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Against multiple Shahed at the same time... they would need multiple Gepard anyway even if it works well. A lot of ground to cover for the number they have, it's hopeless to think they will be able to stop them but maybe not copeless.

Belarus is modernizing its T-72 tanks and armored vehicles in Russian defense industry companies, reports the Belarus Ministry of Defense. Belarus announced the modernization of the Russian tanks it received. All the footage I've seen of tanks sent from Belarus to Russia was of T-72A's, I believe Lukashenko plans to upgrade them to the level of what they call the T-72BM2, which is to add Relik-like reactive protection over the 1970s armor. I said similar because very little is known about this tank, I speculate that it is as well armored as the T-80BVM (which also has weak base armor under modern ERA). But the biggest deficiency of the T-72A is in the fire system, which really needs modernization.

Still on Belarus, the Belarusian KGB detained a Ukrainian spy and two Belarusians he recruited who sent data to Ukraine's military intelligence, said Belarus KGB chief Ivan Tertel.
Look at the flight altitude of the AFU helicopter.

Sinnavuuty said:

Belarus is modernizing its T-72 tanks and armored vehicles in Russian defense industry companies, reports the Belarus Ministry of Defense. Belarus announced the modernization of the Russian tanks it received. All the footage I've seen of tanks sent from Belarus to Russia was of T-72A's, I believe Lukashenko plans to upgrade them to the level of what they call the T-72BM2, which is to add Relik-like reactive protection over the 1970s armor. I said similar because very little is known about this tank, I speculate that it is as well armored as the T-80BVM (which also has weak base armor under modern ERA). But the biggest deficiency of the T-72A is in the fire system, which really needs modernization.
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Still on Belarus, the Belarusian KGB detained a Ukrainian spy and two Belarusians he recruited who sent data to Ukraine's military intelligence, said Belarus KGB chief Ivan Tertel.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1583002109485940736

Look at the flight altitude of the AFU helicopter.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1583064507756122112

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Russian defense industry companies have time to upgrade them ? I was thinking they were digging and upgrading t-55 to bring them to the front because Russian loss all their tanks ?Joke appart, don't know the price difference of these upgrades vs new tanks. If it's only armor addon it's probably cheap but if they upgrade the gun and guidance, it will be another level of spending.

From the pro-Russian Telegram channel "Military Chronicle", automatic translation:

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Disruption of the offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on Kremennaya: details

According to the "Military Chronicle", a planned attack by the AFU on the Russian Armed Forces defence in Kremennaya, scheduled for early October, did not take place due to several incidents with Western self-propelled artillery.

Of the 14 PzH-2000 self-propelled guns delivered to Ukraine at the end of September, at least three were destroyed by Russian Lancet-3 drones and 152-mm artillery in the Shandrigolovo area.

Eight more were damaged in the battles for Liman and are being repaired in Lithuania. The condition of the remaining three howitzers in service is assessed as unsatisfactory.

According to sources of the "Military Chronicle" some howitzers were destroyed along with reserve crews, which in Germany were trained not for military operations, but for the repair of equipment.

In addition, all PzH-2000s were delivered to Ukraine without AN / PSN-11 satellite navigation and the ADLER III fire control system, which excludes their use according to NATO standards.

An attempt to replace the PzH-2000 with Polish AHS Krabs was unsuccessful. During the transfer of the ACS battery to Kremennaya, the vehicles started having problems with the suspension and turret traverse mechanisms, which made their use impossible.

To make up for the losses, instead of Western-made self-propelled artillery, the Armed Forces of Ukraine were forced to transfer Soviet D-20 and D-30 towed howitzers to the Shandrigolovo area (50 km from Kremennaya).

Maybe they turned off their entire circuit breaker as solidarity with Ukraine power grid being obliterated from the missiles that ran out 8 months ago.


Apparently, this is a map of the flooding in Kherson if the dam (HPP) is destroyed. It’s probably very likely that the Russians will leave Kherson city if the dam is destroyed if the flooding could be this severe.

FriedButter said:

Maybe they turned off their entire circuit breaker as solidarity with Ukraine power grid being obliterated from the missiles that ran out 8 months ago.

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Apparently, this is a map of the flooding in Kherson if the dam (HPP) is destroyed. It’s probably very likely that the Russians will leave Kherson city if the dam is destroyed if the flooding could be this severe.

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That flooding will recede quite fast but clearly not sure that bridges will still be there. It will be quite hard to reinforce, even by boat because of all the soil that will be moved arround. Using ZUBR class could be a thing but still risky to lose big visible asset. They need to pull something out fast if they want to keep a foot hold on the west bank.

If this news is really proven, the Arash-2 is a much bigger increment of the Geran-2's capacity.

I have already said that this may be the intention of Russia opening a new front in the north, let's wait.

Putin visited one of the training centers for the mobilized

AFU (probably SOF) at high speed moving away from the scene under the effect of gunfire by Russian units

Yesterday I read a source saying that Ukraine asked everyone to be completely silent in Kherson

Sinnavuuty said:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1583125698533011456

Yesterday I read a source saying that Ukraine asked everyone to be completely silent in Kherson

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Everyone pulled off for the flood ?

Atomicfrog said:

Russian defense industry companies have time to upgrade them ? I was thinking they were digging and upgrading t-55 to bring them to the front because Russian loss all their tanks ?Joke appart, don't know the price difference of these upgrades vs new tanks. If it's only armor addon it's probably cheap but if they upgrade the gun and guidance, it will be another level of spending.

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The Belarus MoD stated this, but it is unknown even if this is true, in addition to 92 T-72A's, they have sent dozens of trucks to Russia, some Ukrainian propagandist sources claim they are being sent to Donbas:

So it's hard to know what's going on, that's why it's still a big question mark in this whole issue of the invasion again by northern Ukraine, instead of strengthening they are weakening. But this can all be a distraction too, too many questions for few conclusive answers. But following the direction of the Belarus statement, it makes sense to upgrade to the T-72BM2 standard, but we also have no way of confirming that, I just relied on the Belarus MoD statement.

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Ukraine now it needs to import it.

Atomicfrog said:

Russian defense industry companies have time to upgrade them ? I was thinking they were digging and upgrading t-55 to bring them to the front because Russian loss all their tanks ?Joke appart, don't know the price difference of these upgrades vs new tanks. If it's only armor addon it's probably cheap but if they upgrade the gun and guidance, it will be another level of spending.

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I would look at this from a different perspective. Lukashenko has given Putin a number of T72s in far better condition than those in the tank reserve base, which will be a beneficial addition to Russia's armour.