The War in the Ukraine

Stealthflanker

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That's just rude man, not even Taiwan want Hawk these days.
Incidentally Iran is extremely familiar with this missile, can probably give Russians pointers if they need it.

I'm curious why not just give more AMRAAM's for their NASAMS. that's miles ahead of what Hawk or Aspide can give. Crotale tho well, it does not seem to offer additional capability over Ukraine's own Osa/SA-8 system. Except maybe being Western and the missile stocks exist for them.
 

sheogorath

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Lancet knocks Osa

It probably missed unless the video cuts short because they detonated it above the vehicle to shower it with shrapnel and damage the radar.

I'm curious why not just give more AMRAAM's for their NASAMS. that's miles ahead of what Hawk or Aspide can give. Crotale tho well, it does not seem to offer additional capability over Ukraine's own Osa/SA-8 system. Except maybe being Western and the missile stocks exist for them.

Not enough stocks without putting them at risk of running out for their own defense?
 

Abominable

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I'm curious why not just give more AMRAAM's for their NASAMS. that's miles ahead of what Hawk or Aspide can give. Crotale tho well, it does not seem to offer additional capability over Ukraine's own Osa/SA-8 system. Except maybe being Western and the missile stocks exist for them.
Like all aid being given to the Ukraine, it's what individual NATO members can spare.

Plus having more launchers means more targets can be protected.
 

tabu

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Well there you go, MiG-29 confirmed to have been downed by debris from Shahed-136. First confirm aerial kill by autonomous thinking machines.

Consider the problems of trying to engage Shahed-136 with a jet fighter:
  • it's has a small RCS as it's mostly made out of fiberglass, it also flies so slow compared to normal aircraft that radar might filter it out as noise
  • it presents a very small heat signature with its moped engine
  • it's a small target, not easy to spot by mark 1 eyeballs
  • it flies very slowly, hard for a jet to get a good shooting angle on it due to approach speed unlike Spitfire vs V1
  • it flies very low to the ground, making engagement risky
Weather it's BVRAAM or SRAAM or gun, none of them seem like a good safe option to engage those drones with.
Nonsense. The pilot made a mistake or got carried away and collided with the drone. It wasn't the drone that hit the plane.
You could also say that a wall crashed the car and killed the driver.
 

Sinnavuuty

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Apparently the Air Force of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is looking for pilots through the website
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as most of their pilots are dead or permanently injured.
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Russian-Belarusian integration seems to be progressing.

Bakhmut is still contested, still fighting on the outskirts of the city.


TOS-1A makes a return to the battlefield
Probably Wagner must be operating these direct fire support systems.
 

Biscuits

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Looks like Putin decided he did too much damage to Ukraine, no further strikes.

We'll have to wait for the next Ukrainian terrorist attack for Russia to do something again. Where next, the Kremlin?
Such a weird guy tbh.

I mean, exceptional statesmen like Deng, Kissinger or maybe Xi if you count him, you can understand at least a hint of what theyre trying to do.

Putin starts a war where everyone, including his allies, view it as a war of survival, and then he goes and randomly drops little nuggets of wisdom like "Moscow does not have the intention of destroying Ukraine as a country" even as Zelensky and NATO is frothing at the mouth every time the word Russia is mentioned.

So, if Russia is not going to use their bomber superiority, then what will be their next move?

Either Putin has 170 iq or he has 70 iq. No inbetweens.
 

Sinnavuuty

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Looks like Putin decided he did too much damage to Ukraine, no further strikes.

We'll have to wait for the next Ukrainian terrorist attack for Russia to do something again. Where next, the Kremlin?
And there are still people here who think Russia is treating this like a war. Putin is a rare and delicate flower when compared to Bush, Obama and Reagan.

This Russian passivity could end up dooming the entire operation at the strategic level. Look what Ukraine is saying:

Russia's enemies openly say that they not only want the destruction of their country but also the death of their leader, how are they acting to defend themselves against this enemy initiative?
Here's the answer: Let's stop the attack, because we've already done a lot of damage.

This is a real joke.

Then their supporters say they deserve to lose, like Strelkov, Dugin and so many others, they are the fifth column, sixth column or traitors, recently it was reported that they are under investigation because they are discrediting the Russian army. And who wouldn't disbelieve in the face of so much passivity?

The dubious side of these statements is that, as has been shown since February 24th, nothing that Russia's political and military leadership says should be taken as truth. Escalation can come in another form and not in the form of missiles flying over the entire country, but simply an advance through Belarus or not, which only confirms Russian passivity. Then, when they suffer attacks and setbacks such as Kharkiv, Kherson and the Crimea bridge, they quickly have to respond, there will come a time when Ukraine has this freedom to act, the Russians will be back to the original border, leaving even Crimea.


It is wait and see what will happen.
 
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