The War in the Ukraine

gelgoog

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This sort of solution based on civilian technology comes with all sorts of issues.
From what I get this is likely using 4G signals to communicate with a central server which is likely on the Internet.

Modernized Russian artillery comes with built-in systems which do not have these kinds of security issues.
The self-propelled NATO artillery systems which were supplied to Ukraine, at least the more modern ones, should also come with such systems.
 

GodRektsNoobs

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This sort of solution based on civilian technology comes with all sorts of issues.
From what I get this is likely using 4G signals to communicate with a central server which is likely on the Internet.

Modernized Russian artillery comes with built-in systems which do not have these kinds of security issues.
The self-propelled NATO artillery systems which were supplied to Ukraine, at least the more modern ones, should also come with such systems.
That might be true, but then again Russia hasn't crippled Ukraine's civilian communication system since the war started. Besides, they still have semi- operable Starlink.
 

obj 705A

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Summary of the main events of October 13:

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ZSU seems pretty efficient in SEAD.

The AFU claims to have photos and videos of the 4 Ka-52s shot down, let's wait.

At Ternopil, AFU air defense systems were active in the morning at local time, reported that 6 missiles hit Ternopil

Confirmed russian missile arrivals in Lvov in the morning local time

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Kalibr flying over Odessa in the morning local time

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Apparently a map showing the intervention sites on the 13th morning of the 13th local time

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AWACS active in Crimea in the afternoon local time

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I'm posting this tweet because of Shahed's price claim claiming to be only $25,000.

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Iranian drones Shahed-131 use American components for $50 from eBay​

Still on Shared, probably one of the reasons it's so cheap

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The situation in Bakhmut

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Small thread of the situation in Bakhmut

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It looks like SOF from AFU, in the picture I saw two people apparently in uniform walking away from the vehicle

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Pequenas perdas da AFU em Kherson

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Probably the reason we are seeing a lot of AFU fighter jets shot down in recent days, they are using fighter jets to shoot down the Shahed-136s and cruise missiles in the lack of an effective anti-air defense, but they are exposing the fighters to AWACS assets and VKS fighter jets.

There is no way Ukraine still has fighters jets on Ukrainian soil, since a fighter jet spends most of it's time on the ground it is easy to take it out with a cruise missile when it's in maintance.
Remember when there was a suggestion that NATO countries could "donate" their Soviet origin fighters to Ukrainian pilots so they could fly their jets from airbases in Poland to Ukraine? well most likely that is exactly what they are doing.

In Belarus, the decision was made to start a secret mobilization, reports a high-ranking source in the Belarusian army. According to information, this will take place under the guise of combat readiness checks and call-ups of reservists.
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IMO this is probably purely for defensive purposes. Some NATO countries are getting more bold with their actions. The reason why the Russian ground forces in Belarus are not attacking Ukraine is probably because their main mission is to protect Belarus.
So once the mobilization in Belarus is over (if there ever is a mobilization) this would help free up some of the Russian soldiers in Belarus so they could be sent to Ukraine.
 

gelgoog

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That might be true, but then again Russia hasn't crippled Ukraine's civilian communication system since the war started. Besides, they still have semi- operable Starlink.
So, you did not hear about the Viasat satellite hack then.
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Viasat was used as the satellite comms backbone of the Ukraine army when the conflict started. After Viasat was hacked, Ukraine had to rush and install Starlink satellite terminals. And now Starlink itself is having issues with intermittent service and the causes are still not totally explained.

There is no way Ukraine still has fighters jets on Ukrainian soil, since a fighter jet spends most of it's time on the ground it is easy to take it out with a cruise missile when it's in maintance.
Remember when there was a suggestion that NATO countries could "donate" their Soviet origin fighters to Ukrainian pilots so they could fly their jets from airbases in Poland to Ukraine? well most likely that is exactly what they are doing.
There are regulations on how neutral countries should behave in a conflict like this. Allowing aircraft of the countries in conflict to ressuply in your own bases makes you a part of the conflict and you might get pulled into the conflict as a result since this is a casus belli. This is why the Soviets arrested US bomber aircraft and pilots in WW2 when they landed in the Soviet Union after doing combat missions in mainland Japan.

Ukraine is basically hiding their aircraft in buildings and moving them around inside Ukraine proper. It is as simple as that. And they are likely also assembling aircrafts either from their own storage or from knock down kits.

As for flying combat aircraft into Ukraine, if the West did that, the airbases of origin would become legitimate targets according to the laws of war. Which is why the Poles told Blinken if he wanted to fly Polish MiG-29s into Ukraine, he should do it from Rammstein air base.
 
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Zichan

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How exactly the Ukranian Mig-29s doing SEAD manage to lock on Russian radars? The aircraft have an organic capability to triangulate radar radiation or are they relying on airborne NATO assets?
 

gelgoog

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I assume NATO provides Ukraine with the general vicinity of possible targets and the the UaF flies their aircraft to the vicinity of the location and fire HARM missiles at that coordinate, then the missile should track the radar, assuming it is turned on. If it does not detect the radar signals then the missile will hit the originally input target coordinate.
 

sheogorath

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There has been some mention about the Russians changing the frequency of the AD radars to make it dificult for the HARMs to pick up, and in turn the Ukranians have modified the HARMs to compensate but this has made them suceptible to be interfered by things like cell phone antennas and such which is why we see a few of them hitting nothing

Or that is the claim. Don't know how feasible any of it is
 

Stealthflanker

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Changing frequency should be a standard practice. Each battery will be assigned their own frequency, This so that there wont be acidentall interference between them. Gelgoog's explanation are making more sense than Ukrainian modifying HARM's.

Problem with the HARM operations there is that Ukrainian lacks the Iron Hand ESM which provides the -proper- designation for the missile prior to launch. and Soviet/Russian ESM's like SPO-15 "Beryoza" is just not gonna talk/ no interface or having insufficient geolocation ability to designate target for HARM.
 

sheogorath

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The videos shown so far about the HARMs shows little to no intefacing between the missile and the plane, and seems to be the case according to The Copium ZoneIMG_20221014_102732.jpg
Also, don't the more modern versions of the S300 outrange the HARM in most envelopes?
 
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