Confession that I based it on information from the Reddit thread, but I don't really believe Ukraine is able to muster this amount of artillery/tanks in one place to be destroyed piecemeal anyhow. Also if it was AFU equipment best believe it'll be plastered all over Russian socials.
I wouldn't put the vehicles to be russian using that argument. I already quote saying that they are probably Russian units, but let's analyze it better. In the case of the Grad battery that was attacked, it could also be from the AFU, this in no way excludes the argument of the other member. However, videos have an immense amount of information that can be extracted:
1 - In the case of the Grad battery, all the information indicates that Grad vehicles were being recharged there.
a) It was in arboreal vegetation
b) It was against the slope of this vegetation on firm ground
c) Easy access and circulation
Questionable points during this recharged:
d) We do not know if this battery moved away from the firing position to avoid counter-battery fires
e) There was definitely no spacing between the vehicles, a reloading position (depending on what size unit we are talking about) has to have dimensions of at least 500 meters on a side in a square format... see for example in seconds 0:44 onwards, you will see that this square is not even 30 meters away distance
Regarding item d)... when an artillery and rocket battery is firing, in order to carry out recharged, this battery has to move away from that firing position in order to avoid being a victim of enemy artillery fire. Doctrinally, this battery has to move at least 2 km away from the firing position, as we have not confirmed this, there is a doubt whether with regard to item d) this battery unit failed in one of the most crucial hours of an artillery. If that unit did not perform the distance from the firing position, it becomes an easy target because a counter-battery radar would give an approximate location of the shots, a small UAV would be sent to perform reconnaissance of this unit and since this battery did not distance itself enough, It became easier to find. Was it the case with this video? I don't know.
Regarding item e)... this is the failure that has been fully confirmed, I don't know what the commander of that battery was thinking, but he failed miserably here. The square format distance of 500 meters is precisely to avoid this type of losses, grouping a battery during remunition at this distance is asking to destroy all your units.
2 - The logistic column that was destroyed in the opening seconds of the video. You can't get much information out of this, but I would say that this column would be at rest or waiting for some kind of order (withdrawal or advance... I can't say).
a) One of the main information that we can extract is the approximate space of these vehicles, they are very close to each other at a distance of only 3 meters. One of the main passive measures is to distance the vehicles from each other to prevent the entire logistical unit from being destroyed in an air or artillery attack - as was the case here, even more considering that this logistical unit did not carry out any camouflage of the vehicles - until because there was no way to do that.
b) In addition, possibly they would not be counting on air defense means in a permanent state of alert along this small march column, whoever claims with 100% certainty based on this video that this unit did not have air defense units does not know what is saying, these anti-aircraft assets are placed in elevated areas that surround the logistic column, this type of active measure would not be in the same position as the logistic vehicles, therefore, this is a matter of discussion, anyway, if did not have units of anti-air defense, the way in which the passive measures did not work already demonstrates the operational failure, if there were air defense units in the area, was there a failure to detect the UAV? Certainly. These are all possibilities, but the operational failure has already been demonstrated.
c) If they didn't have these air units, why didn't they have an anti-aircraft spotter along the column? This is another passive measure that could have been employed.
Uptade:
