The War in the Ukraine

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supersnoop

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Atomicfrog said:
It was certainly not lone... maybe a part broke or the truck didn't start. If not theres a couple destroyed beside it. It's impressive that there's one already captured, they lost all std stock and rely already on the new ones ?
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The angle is not ideal, but it looks like the integrated tow hook under the muzzle brake might be missing, perhaps broken off and forced to be abandoned. This is the sort of minor damage that I was talking about that would put an entire piece of equipment out of action without proper logistical support.

If it were just the truck that was the issue, then you could tow with any medium weight truck. I think even an F-150 could tow it.
 
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weig2000 said:
Why are you saying it's a forgery? The two articles hold similar pessimistic opinions on Russia's invasion of Ukraine to be sure, but they certainly read as two different pieces. They're supposedly two separate speeches by two different speakers at the same video conference on Russia-Ukraine conflict and its impact.

Can you provide any evidence to back up your claim? Just because someone doesn't agree with the view expressed does not make it a forgery. In fact, I think there are quite some people in China holding similar views, like it or not.
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First I saw the clarification, such as Annex 1 "高大使从未发表图中言论并保留诉诸法律的权利”（Ambassador GAO has never made the remarks in the picture and reserves the right to take legal action）.

Secondly, please note that the watermark on the image of the fake article is from @CIF30, which does not exist in @CIF30's WeChat, nor did I find it on the website
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（A website storage deleted article from WeChat）. The one I found from the website does not come from @CIF30. The original article used a video conference photo, not an ID photo, so if the article was real, it would have provided a screenshot of the video conference instead of a portrait photo.

Lastly, this event was fermented on Weibo with a lot of 1450's operations, and they have a history of changing authors and shuffling articles to achieve their goals.

These are the process of my research and judgment, if you know of other sites that have deleted articles from WeChat and found the original article I would like to apologize.
 

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Bill Blazo said:
Yes, they obviously have, on multiple fronts and sectors. They've done it in the Siege of Mariupol, bringing together amphibious operations, artillery barrages, and air strikes all at once. They're doing it every day in the Donbas. The Russians are doing what they do best: taking huge losses and conquering more land at the same time. It's the basic story of Russian military history.
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I’d say that our assessments of competence diverge widely, which is to be expected.
 
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Soldier30

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Published footage of the army evacuators BREM-1 in Ukraine. The video shows the evacuation of the damaged T-72B3 tank from the battlefield. In the current conditions, the repair of military equipment in Ukraine is carried out in an aggregate way. The main task is to restore and return equipment to the front as quickly as possible.


Russian troops and militia special forces, with the help of anti-tank systems, delivered an accurate missile attack on repeater towers in Ukraine. Soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine installed surveillance cameras on the towers and used them to correct the fire of the artillery of the Ukrainian army. With the help of ATGM guided missiles, all targets were destroyed.

 
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weig2000

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Shadow_Whomel said:
First I saw the clarification, such as Annex 1 "高大使从未发表图中言论并保留诉诸法律的权利”（Ambassador GAO has never made the remarks in the picture and reserves the right to take legal action）.

Secondly, please note that the watermark on the image of the fake article is from @CIF30, which does not exist in @CIF30's WeChat, nor did I find it on the website
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
（A website storage deleted article from WeChat）. The one I found from the website does not come from @CIF30. The original article used a video conference photo, not an ID photo, so if the article was real, it would have provided a screenshot of the video conference instead of a portrait photo.

Lastly, this event was fermented on Weibo with a lot of 1450's operations, and they have a history of changing authors and shuffling articles to achieve their goals.

These are the process of my research and judgment, if you know of other sites that have deleted articles from WeChat and found the original article I would like to apologize.
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Thank you. The linked report was from iFeng.com website, which is not always credible, but at least they're not a fly-by-night website. It's hard to imagine they would do a forgery of Ambassador Gao and on such a topic. Due to the sensitivity of his previous role and the subject, it's also likely that he was under pressure to retract his comments.

In any case, I don't know. It could be either way.
 
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enroger

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Shadow_Whomel said:
First I saw the clarification, such as Annex 1 "高大使从未发表图中言论并保留诉诸法律的权利”（Ambassador GAO has never made the remarks in the picture and reserves the right to take legal action）.

Secondly, please note that the watermark on the image of the fake article is from @CIF30, which does not exist in @CIF30's WeChat, nor did I find it on the website
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
（A website storage deleted article from WeChat）. The one I found from the website does not come from @CIF30. The original article used a video conference photo, not an ID photo, so if the article was real, it would have provided a screenshot of the video conference instead of a portrait photo.

Lastly, this event was fermented on Weibo with a lot of 1450's operations, and they have a history of changing authors and shuffling articles to achieve their goals.

These are the process of my research and judgment, if you know of other sites that have deleted articles from WeChat and found the original article I would like to apologize.
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Do you have direct link to Gao's rebuttal? his weibo page? I do hope it is true that it was forgery, his stance on the matter not withstanding, it shows fracture within the CPC by not presenting a united front, western media is having a field day with this particular speech forgery or not...
 
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enroger said:
Do you have direct link to Gao's rebuttal? his weibo page? I do hope it is true that it was forgery, his stance on the matter not withstanding, it shows fracture within the CPC by not presenting a united front, western media is having a field day with this particular speech forgery or not...
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This Gao individual has exposed himself as a NATzO stooge. He will need to publicly denounce this NATzO forgery and then he can be disposed off. It is imperative to clear NATzO suckers off China's government ranks.
 
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KenC

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enroger said:
Do you have direct link to Gao's rebuttal? his weibo page? I do hope it is true that it was forgery, his stance on the matter not withstanding, it shows fracture within the CPC by not presenting a united front, western media is having a field day with this particular speech forgery or not...
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Gao is not a high raking official and there are hundreds (even thousands ) of ambassadors and ex-ambassador in China. Does such a view from such a person give rise to fracture in leadership. That's a long stretch. Come on.

In the past, many Chinese praised Weibos from the US embassy / ambassador. Today, a recent statement from the newly appointed US ambassador on "Russian crimes' attracted tons of ridicules from Chinese netizens. The people today are even more behind the current leadership. Sima Nan talked about this matter:

 
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lucretius

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Yommie said:
Personally, I'd like to see Chinese AH4 and American M777 duke it out in Ukraine. It is possible but not likely. Chinese are still quite timid about flexing its soft power on the world stage.
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FYI, the M777 is a British gun developed by Vickers and subsequently purchased by BAE systems. The American's happen to be the primary user of it though.
 
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