The War in the Ukraine

Overbom

Brigadier
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Oh boy. Never mind what I said this telegram video sounds like a missile hit.
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It's cliche I know but it looks like this was just escalated.
Yeah, this look like a missile hit.
Disabling/destroying the Crimean bridge would be a major breakthrough by Ukraine

As for "escalating", the war itself is an escalation so I don't see anything strange here. Because Russia refuses to target critical infrastructure it doesn't mean that Ukraine is obliged to do the same
 

Dragon of War

Junior Member
Registered Member
I doubt it. The financial times report that the Ukrainian lost their communications when they push into Russian held areas. Either they disabled starlink over Russian held areas (implies they know where the frontlines are and when it changes) or something is blocking communications.

Perhaps the Soviet secret weapon "Dome of Light"?

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Captured over Russia recently.
 

supersnoop

Major
Registered Member
My apologies for getting back to you so slowly. You asked a good question and deserve an honest answer.



Why are the Ukrainians fighting for the regime in Kiev? From what I have heard, they are not. They are fighting for their homes. If someone kicks in your door and you have the opportunity to fight, what would you do? I know what Ukrainians would do. In fact, I don't just 'know' it: we can see it in the war.

They are fighting for their own culture. Ukrainians consume Russophonic media and what is said on TV? The 'popular' shows are saying the Ukrainians do not have a distinct culture or language. Even when blocked by Kiev, the TV shows are online. Those shows may help hype up the Russians, but it also enrages Ukrainians.

The Ukrainians see their future in Brussels, not Moscow. Ukrainians see Moscow as denying their precieved path to a better future.

Finally, Ukrainians are fighting because they feel betrayed. Russia was their brother country. Russia promised to respect the Ukrainian borders. So many Ukrainians are intermarried with Russian families. From the Ukrainian point of view, 2014 and even more so now, this is the Biblical story of Cain and Abel, the so-called first murder where a jealous brother killed another. Except in this version, Cain has not succeeded in killing Abel and now Ukrainians have the wrath of god burning within them.

That rage I've brought up several times. That burning rage is enough to power this war for years. I cannot highlight this enough.

Is it about Kiev? No, but Zelensky has been doing a fantastic job of winning the info war. Ukrainians are far too cynical to call him Churchillian[1], but you might still sniff a whiff of the proverbial cigar smoke all the same. The longer the war goes on and the more successful Ukraine is, the stronger the parallel will be seen.

So, predictions!

The Ukrainians will take the right bank of the Dniepr and the city of Kherson by the end of November, maybe even the end of October.

The Ukrainians will push into Lugansk to flank Kreminna by going for Svatove and Staroblisk. This cuts the railways and supply from the north. They will continue east to Bilovodosk and then swing south towards Lugansk, cutting off the rail logistics as they go.

I would not expect a Zaporizhia offensive until Kherson is secured, troops are rested and moved into position. This would probably be a winter offensive if it happens.

After that all depends if the Russians can get their shbt together.

1. Note: the brits threw Churchill out when they grew tired of him. He was actually a real nasty piece of work himself. I expect the Ukrainians will toss Zelensky out when they are tired of him as well.

You don’t think Eastern Ukrainians will fight for their homes too? I think the fighting would become worse if only for the hope to hold off the inevitable reprisals
 

Overbom

Brigadier
Registered Member
It is very possible the rail bridge may collapse, too. That burning fuel can badly damage the structure.
Yes. The bridge may have been disabled with just 1 hit.

I don't think the rail structure will hold, and even if it will, it will be in such bad condition that it will need to be rebuilt

Here is another photo. The one direction line section has collapsed entirely, the other one seems to be heavily damaged
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lolrus

New Member
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Oh boy. Never mind what I said this telegram video sounds like a missile hit.
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It's cliche I know but it looks like this was just escalated.
There's something very off about the video and most likely fake. Where is the train? I didn't see any train in the distance or nearby in the video and that's the thing on fire right now. Also the sky looks way to bright. The order of time seems to be off. In the footage of the supposed missile hitting the bridge the sky seems to indicate the sun been up for a while probably noonish but in the video and pictures where the bridge is on fire it looks like the sun is just rising up. So unless time went backwards and the sun went back down, it seems very off.
 

SolarWarden

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Pmichael

Junior Member
How is Russia ever going to sell a S-300 or S-400 again? The bridge was supposed to be the best defense piece of infrastructure by the Russians.
 
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