The War in the Ukraine

el pueblo unido

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Just saw a vídeo that I'm not sure if it's appropiate to link to, but basically it was an ukrainian BMP desperately backing into another BMP, knocking the soldiers that were riding on top. Then trying to reverse again, crushing/almost crushing several of the soldiers
I saw that too, was it due to some sort of mal-function of BMP or just panic attack from the driver/crew ?
 

sheogorath

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Looks like the crew panicking with no regards for their surroundings or situational awareness.

Also, you'd think they would have comms with those fancy NATO radios they got
 

Stealthflanker

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Just saw a vídeo that I'm not sure if it's appropiate to link to, but basically it was an ukrainian BMP desperately backing into another BMP, knocking the soldiers that were riding on top. Then trying to reverse again, crushing/almost crushing several of the soldiers

reminds me of a story of Russian officer got ran over some months ago. Which im kinda doubt.
Yeah i watched the vid too, pretty tragic.

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I'm kinda curious what Russians will do now after retreat from Kharkov or Kharkiv as any unoccupied territory is a launch site or fire control for Ukrainian MLRS and artillery, especially after abandoning Izyum. Railway and highway to Lugansk now especially vulnerable. The longer they wait, the more chance Ukrainians will entrench themselves again.

The Russian air defense can do CRAM mission and they seem to do well but they just not gonna intercept all projectiles. I feel that they needed some major counteroffensive on their own either retake the positions or take another settlement elsewhere to apply pressure there.

Aviation can be used but the Ukrainian artillery have so many places they can hide before firing.

Attacking Ukrainian energy infrastructure make life miserable for the civvies but not so much for the army i think as one can expect they got generators especially air defense. Buk can perfectly operates using their own gas turbines and S-300 have diesel generator for PT. While PS every launcher and 5N63 radar vehicle have gas turbine.
 

el pueblo unido

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Looks like the crew panicking with no regards for their surroundings or situational awareness.

Also, you'd think they would have comms with those fancy NATO radios they got
Could it be the RAF knocking off the power grid coming into effect? after all, you will have to charge all of your electronics, I suspect the driver was unaware of the other BMP behind him due to lack of comms, you can see one guy tried to shoot the BMP to warn it, but then again not sure when and where this accoured.
 

Anlsvrthng

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Attacking Ukrainian energy infrastructure make life miserable for the civvies but not so much for the army i think as one can expect they got generators especially air defense. Buk can perfectly operates using their own gas turbines and S-300 have diesel generator for PT. While PS every launcher and 5N63 radar vehicle have gas turbine.
It forcing them to use up precious fuel to run the air defence, needs more frequent shipment to the air defence stations, and dramatically increase the thermal and electrical signature.

A generator runing even on idle emiting lot of electric noise.

they would use up at least 200 liters of diesel per truck , as bare minimum, and it can go up to 1000-2000 liter/days in heavy workload.

Means they need a frequent visit from a fuell truck at every installation .
 

Biscuits

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Could it be the RAF knocking off the power grid coming into effect? after all, you will have to charge all of your electronics, I suspect the driver was unaware of the other BMP behind him due to lack of comms, you can see one guy tried to shoot the BMP to warn it, but then again not sure when and where this accoured.
Far reaching conclusion I think. Probably just an unprofessional driver.
 

Weaasel

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reminds me of a story of Russian officer got ran over some months ago. Which im kinda doubt.
Yeah i watched the vid too, pretty tragic.

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I'm kinda curious what Russians will do now after retreat from Kharkov or Kharkiv as any unoccupied territory is a launch site or fire control for Ukrainian MLRS and artillery, especially after abandoning Izyum. Railway and highway to Lugansk now especially vulnerable. The longer they wait, the more chance Ukrainians will entrench themselves again.

The Russian air defense can do CRAM mission and they seem to do well but they just not gonna intercept all projectiles. I feel that they needed some major counteroffensive on their own either retake the positions or take another settlement elsewhere to apply pressure there.

Aviation can be used but the Ukrainian artillery have so many places they can hide before firing.

Attacking Ukrainian energy infrastructure make life miserable for the civvies but not so much for the army i think as one can expect they got generators especially air defense. Buk can perfectly operates using their own gas turbines and S-300 have diesel generator for PT. While PS every launcher and 5N63 radar vehicle have gas turbine.
Russia has to ready to undertake heavystrategic combing, in coordination with tactical airstrikes, and combined arms ground forces that mix infantry, artillery, and armour very well, if it is determined to recapture at least much of the lost territory... To me, even if Izium is not recaptured, it is necessary to recapture all of the territory within a couple dozen miles of Kupyansk. The Russians can do so if they are prepared to commit the resources to do so and if or when they recapture it all, they have to maintain a large garrison there for the duration of the war... Having a large force in Kupyansk at least keeps the Ukrainians wary of any major offensive to be relaunched further into Kharkov Region from that location... It also provides alternative means of supply to forces...

Quite frankly, it is strange that the Russian government is or was so blasé about the Kharkov Region and never decided to retain sufficient forces there in case of a major Ukrainian offensive or to itself threaten an offensive elsewhere in Kharkov or in the direction of Donbass... It has been established that the Russians were fully aware of the build up of the Ukrainians for weeks before the launched the offensive, but yet they did nothing in response to it quickly...
 

Anlsvrthng

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Russia has to ready to undertake heavystrategic combing, in coordination with tactical airstrikes, and combined arms ground forces that mix infantry, artillery, and armour very well, if it is determined to recapture at least much of the lost territory... To me, even if Izium is not recaptured, it is necessary to recapture all of the territory within a couple dozen miles of Kupyansk. The Russians can do so if they are prepared to commit the resources to do so and if or when they recapture it all, they have to maintain a large garrison there for the duration of the war... Having a large force in Kupyansk at least keeps the Ukrainians wary of any major offensive to be relaunched further into Kharkov Region from that location... It also provides alternative means of supply to forces...

Quite frankly, it is strange that the Russian government is or was so blasé about the Kharkov Region and never decided to retain sufficient forces there in case of a major Ukrainian offensive or to itself threaten an offensive elsewhere in Kharkov or in the direction of Donbass... It has been established that the Russians were fully aware of the build up of the Ukrainians for weeks before the launched the offensive, but yet they did nothing in response to it quickly...
Frankly,. I stope long time ago to figure out the strategy of the Russians.

The Ukrainan side is easy and transparent like the thin air, but the Russian side looks like analysing a women behaviour - when you feel you get hold on it is the time to have a huge shock.
 

SampanViking

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Just saw a vídeo that I'm not sure if it's appropiate to link to, but basically it was an ukrainian BMP desperately backing into another BMP, knocking the soldiers that were riding on top. Then trying to reverse again, crushing/almost crushing several of the soldiers
For what its worth, I would guess that the guys on the ground saw the drone and realised what this meant and just wanted to get away from the area they were in as quickly as possible, on the assumption that inbound was already on its way....
 
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