The War in the Ukraine

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lucretius

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Soldiers talk. Your only kidding yourself if you think the US could cover up 1000 destroyed tanks and 2000+ destroyed AFV.

This is besides the point. Unless you can demonstrate anything more substantative, Oryx is the best evidence we have right now. He's kindly supplied his evidence, feel free to point out the duplicates and make sure to let him know ;)
 
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GodRektsNoobs

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lucretius said:
Soldiers talk. Your only kidding yourself if you think the US could cover up 1000 destroyed tanks and 2000+ destroyed AFV.

This is besides the point. Unless you can demonstrate anything more substantative, Oryx is the best evidence we have right now. He's kindly supplied his evidence, feel free to point out the duplicates and make sure to let him know ;)
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GodRektsNoobs said:
You realize that disabled tanks are often recovered after combat? Do you ever take that into consideration? If just going by Oryx-style statistics, US and UK probably lost hundreds, if not thousands of heavy armored vehicles during their occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan.


"OMG, M1A2 just got absolutely destroyed! What a piece of junk! Look at the crew getting dragged out of the tank on stretchers! Brave Fedayeen ghost of Fallujah got evil Americans on the run! Allah Akbar!" - Oryx, probably
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Here is my question. Is this M1A2 considered destroyed? Because in the eyes of Oryx, if this tank was a Russian T-90 in Ukraine, it would be considered as destroyed. Meanwhile according to US records, it probably just suffered minor mechanical issues on that day and most definitely was not disabled due to enemy fire.
 
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Abominable

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drowingfish said:
This is clearly fake, reads nothing like a report in the military. there is also no such thing as comprehensive nato weapon training standard. you also don't just request ak when recruits are unable to learn m-16, that is simply not how army training works.
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Using that phrase doesn't necessarily refer to a formal programme, it's just saying the soldiers aren't trained to NATO standards. You can tell by the lack of capitalisation.

The NATO website makes reference to virtually the same phrase:
The Alliance is noted for enhancing the interoperability of international forces and can bring this expertise to bear on those dimensions of the terrorist challenge for which military and civil organisations must work closely together. Using English as a common language and using comprehensive NATO standard operating procedures, more than 50 countries are developing the capacity to work together.
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There are videos of Ukrainians training with M70s in the UK. They're hilarious as the UK instructors clearly don't know how to use them either. Are you saying the Russians faked those videos as well?
 
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GodRektsNoobs

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lucretius said:
Another point, The US and UK took Bagdhad in less than a week. Not enough time for the Iraqi army to wipe out thousands of AFV's ;)
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Of course, US was at its peak and Iraq was completely isolated, starved, and was embroiled in non-stop war and conflict since 1979. Its economy was in shambles and military completely dysfunctional. US had effectively surrounded Iraq and could mobilize the full strength of its vassals to distribute the losses. Meanwhile Russia's global position today is a far cry from its USSR days, and Ukraine had been hardened with help of NATO to be a fortress against Russia. All the while NATO has been pouring ridiculous amount of military assistance into Ukraine since 2014. Two completely different stories. But let's please get back to topic.
 
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memfisa

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lolrus said:
Looks like Ukraine manage to make a dirt bridge from one of the destroyed pontoon and took the town of Blagodatovka and the Russian pontoon there. Ukraine seems to be putting all their hopes in this offensive and are sending everything they got into the pocketView attachment 96833
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This is really good news for Russia. They need to reinforce this position and hold it and it's time to start a slow grind towards Kiev from Belarus. Those vacationers in Belarus need to be used now

Nukes are available to cover the Eastern Military District. Start moving these boys in and get this over with already
 
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Sinnavuuty

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Jiang ZeminFanboy said:
So how many are duplicated? I read that many are the same pictures but no one made a count, I guess someone should done it if so many are fakes. Let's say e.g. 20% of the MBT counted by Oryx are duplicated, then what about the losses which are not on the pictures? Idk, but for sure quite a lot are not counted, then maybe also 20% are without the photos then the loss of tanks are again 1000.
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Can I send you a private message about this? Since we were forced to no longer comment on Oryx's credibility.
 
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