The War in the Ukraine

FADH1791

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Eh people are emotional about the airbase explosion. Just like the sinking of the Moshka, just like the Belogorod explosions or the HIMARs hitting Russian supply depots. This is how fighting a war with a near peer competitor is like. Ukraine’s military is no slouch. Before the war they had high end Soviet military equipment. They have the S-300. They are receiving western aid. Plus before the war they had 400,000 active duty men. 600,000 combat vets and million of reserves. So they have the capability to do these little attacks that don’t do anything in the grand scheme of things.

Here are the facts. Ukraine has no offensive capability to retake the territory they lost. Their defense industry is totally destroyed. They depend on the west for tanks,bullets,grenades etc. They do not have enough tanks and armored vehicles to launch a major counteroffensive. They lack artillery. All they can do is send swarms of light infantry conscripts with two weeks of training to the Donbass to plug the gaps. They have lost the vast majority of their most battle hardened fighters in the Donbas to never ending Russian artillery. They are trying to hold the lines while getting pulverized with intense artillery. Their casualty figures are horrific but with their manpower reserves they can replace them but they are losing. The Russians are advancing while the Ukrainians are losing. They are on the process of losing Soledar which if it falls means game over for Bakhmut. Zaluzhny is begging Zelensky to have their forces retreat from the Seversk/Soledar/Bakhmut line because they are near collapse at Soledar. They have no chance in retaking Kherson because they lack artillery and tanks for an offensive not to mention air superiority in a flat terrain. All they can do is defend and slow down the Russians. They have tough fortifications in Donbas but what good use is these tough fortifications if they are static and can be pulverized by round the clock artillery bombardment.
So they will do these tactical victories that will only be effective on social media but have no real effective on the battle space. Just like the Syrian rebels before them which only cares about victories on social media only to get destroyed in real life. Nothing more nothing less.
 

Soldier30

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Ukraine received a batch of Turkish-made Kirpi armored vehicles, 50 vehicles are already on the front line, - said Yury Misyagin, deputy of the ruling Servant of the People party. Turkish armored car Kirpi 4x4 developed by the BMC


Russian artillery began to actively use Krasnopol high-precision guided missiles. The front received 5000 thousand of such ammunition. The video shows the impact of the Krasnopol projectile on the Ukrainian M777 howitzer made in the USA.

 

Sheleah

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The images show that Russian sources are only fooling their sheep... They had assured that no aircraft had been damaged

The Ukrainian sources spoke of 9 aircraft destroyed, and it seems to be closer to reality than the Russian lies.

Here someone seems to see 3 craters of probable missile arrivals... If this is confirmed, it would not only be the worst day for Russian military aviation, but its air defense systems would be in doubt... In addition to its threats of escalating the conflict and retaliation against the West if Russian territory (including Crimea) was attacked was nothing more than horseplay

 

FriedButter

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Doesn’t look like Ukraine will be getting long range HIMARS missiles unless Biden secretly ships them over. Bipartisan bickering with Republicans saying no and Democrats saying yes. Main Reason. Estimated around 1000-3000 of those missiles stockpiled and they probably want to use them against China instead.
 

sheogorath

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The latest and most up to date count of all the Russian Armed Forces losses in Ukraine .
( This are all visually confirmed )

Of course it uses Oryx "I totally don't count the same tanks thrice"

Here someone seems to see 3 craters of probable missile arrivals... If this is confirmed, it would not only be the worst day for Russian military aviation, but its air defense systems would be in doubt... In addition to its threats of escalating the conflict and retaliation against the West if Russian territory (including Crimea) was attacked was nothing more than horseplay

Then why the Ukranian MoD distanced itself from what happened at the base if it was totally an attack?

And like I said, kinda suspect you three show up at around the same time in this thread
 

Sheleah

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Then why the Ukranian MoD distanced itself from what happened at the base if it was totally an attack?
The Ukrainian MoD has not confirmed or denied anything, it has only beaten the Russians

There is always the possibility that they decide not to talk about attacks to see the Russian response to their sheep and continue to attack and continue to ridicule their official versions ... Or simply not to involve their allies, in the face of the fury of the empty Russian announcements

Although for his sheep, there was no material damage and everything is fine...
 

taxiya

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The fact that Russian marines from the Pacific fleet are participating in the conflict is very interesting. Based on that, I guess the Russians are rotating troops to gain combat experience in conventional warfare.
That reminds me of the border conflict from 1984 to 1990 between China and Vietnam. PLA troops from 6 military regions rotated in the fighting. Maybe Russia is doing the same, instead of taking over the whole country with high casualty in short time, prolong the war with sustainable low casualty rate and cost which seems to be what Russia was doing since the 2nd phase. If so, it will be years before we see an end.

The Sino-Vietnamese conflict stopped shooting in early 1990. The USSR collapsed the next year. China was bleeding USSR in Vietnam while USA was bleeding USSR in Afghanistan. Ukraine today is another Vietnam/Afghanistan. EU+USA may look larger on paper than China+Russia compared to USA + China vs. USSR, the reality is that EU is much weaker due to its energy problem and China's material GDP is larger than USA. So it is possible that we are seeing another attrition war again.
 
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