The War in the Ukraine

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sheogorath

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MarKoz81 said:
So if Ukraine received AGM-88 HARM then it is capable of using it in that mode which requires only the LAU-118 launcher, some cables and a simple switch in the cockpit with a light indicating that the missile has locked on an emission source. This kind of work can be easily done in the facilities that repair Ukraine's fighters and could be installed on any aircraft that is capable of carrying 500kg payload on a pylon.
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You still need to do separation tests and the like. You just can't sling weapons under a wing and expect the aerodynamics of the missile, the aircraft and their interactions with each other to just go smoothly on the first try.



Let alone fitting a HARM under a design never meant to carry them like a Flanker or a Mig
 
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Overbom

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RottenPanzer said:
Is it true that the entire airbase was totally destroyed?
I presume that the big explosion ones were came from the fuel dump itself, not the missile
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I doubt that the entire airbase was destroyed. Actually how can you even destroy such a big place with a single explosion?

Can a ammo-storage explosion do that? I thought they were built in such a manner as to minimise the effect to an airbase from an explosion
 
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Biscuits

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Overbom said:
I doubt that the entire airbase was destroyed. Actually how can you even destroy such a big place with a single explosion?

Can a ammo-storage explosion do that? I thought they were built in such a manner as to minimise the effect to an airbase from an explosion
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Sounds very western cope to believe a whole airbase can be destroyed by what, accident(?) or several Smerch/tochka(?).

Unless the runways were hit by special runway destroying bombs, generally airbases don't take too long to get back up into operation.

I remember a thread on such airbase attacks claims after being totalled by a multi DF-26 strike, a base such as Guam or Kadena can be operational after 70 hours again. Since Ukrainians most likely don't have access to runway destroying bombs, the time is likely even shorter.
 
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B777LR

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Overbom said:
I doubt that the entire airbase was destroyed. Actually how can you even destroy such a big place with a single explosion?

Can a ammo-storage explosion do that? I thought they were built in such a manner as to minimise the effect to an airbase from an explosion
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Aren't Russian/Soviet bases sorta infamous for not being built like that? Google maps shows the place has a number of revetments.

In any case, Crimea wasn't Russian until 8 years ago, so I would think it unlikely that this base has seen any major investment since the cold war. Even during those times, it wasn't exactly a frontline base.

Regardless, I doubt the explosion destroyed the entire base. But it will probably be out of action until the ammo dump or fuel stores can be replenished.
 
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Sheleah

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Pro-Russian sources confirm at least one SU-24 lost due to fires near the Novofedorovka base... Before the Russian MoD had said that there were no losses and that the action was not the result of a missile attack but rather due to negligence or sabotage, although it is already known that there are losses, so it may be one of the thousands of Russian lies

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Janiz

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It's not about airstrips - it's about psychology and it's Ukrainian statement that "nothing's safe on Crimea now", creat some panic for the civilians that will surely take some parts of armed forces to calm them down. Whatever they managed to destroy in the process is a bonus for them. Russians used more than 50+ missiles, they knew the targets and haven't done too much to Ukrainian AF as it turned out. It's not easy to pull something like that off against prepared adversary. Against lackluster one it might work but I doubt Russians fall into that category as a whole.

Ukrainians calmly and in orderly manner execute each step and are making the best use of the cards they were dealt with.
 
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Biscuits

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Janiz said:
It's not about airstrips - it's about psychology and it's Ukrainian statement that "nothing's safe on Crimea now", creat some panic for the civilians that will surely take some parts of armed forces to calm them down. Whatever they managed to destroy in the process is a bonus for them. Russians used more than 50+ missiles, they knew the targets and haven't done too much to Ukrainian AF as it turned out. It's not easy to pull something like that off against prepared adversary. Against lackluster one it might work but I doubt Russians fall into that category as a whole.

Ukrainians calmly and in orderly manner execute each step and are making the best use of the cards they were dealt with.
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Pretty sure any concerns among civilians doesn't really distract the armed forces. They can just use their propaganda to calm down people and inform about local shelters etc. So the civilian government will do almost the whole job of giving a plan to the people.

That is if this really was a missile attack and didn't come from within Crimea like the last few explosions or attempts to make ones.
 
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