That must be why there are like 30 Il-76 sitting in Mariupol under Russian control and the UAF is lucky to take off and just launch volley of rockets in the general direction of the Russians once or twice a day.
The War in the Ukraine
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That must be why there are like 30 Il-76 sitting in Mariupol under Russian control and the UAF is lucky to take off and just launch volley of rockets in the general direction of the Russians once or twice a day.
Most people have stopped caring about this war, but if it gets that bad Russia will just nuke America and Europe. There's no scenario where NATO wins in the Ukraine.
This is laughable. The sycophantic attitude of Ukrainian supporters toward the "information war" is completely stupefying, its as if they actually believe that they can convince the Russians to give up if there are enough Twitter hashtags. Single, irregular rockets are not going to matter in a war that turns into one of material attrition. The idea that anyone would make the "its about psychology" argument truly displays the level of mental degradation caused by western media.
They simply follow the orders from the USA ,and try to inflict the maximum damage on Russia with the available resources.
Regardless of the Ukrainan losses, or if the given action serve anything sensible.
And don't forget, if USA gives long range missiles to Ukraine, that is like USA strike Russia. It is not tactical warfare any more, but strategical.
Your cards amount to pretty much nothing if you can't reconquer the ground you have lost. Should the war end now, Ukraine would have still lost as much land as half of the UK, and that's without discussing the demographic, economical, technological and industrial toll it already had.
On top of the destruction already caused by the internal corruption, ineptitude and declining living conditions since they split from the USSR.
And while some might like to pretend it doesn't, logic cuts both ways; if HIMARS hitting one or two depots a day has affected Russia's fighting ability, then sure as heck you can't pretend Russia blowing up 3 o 4 Ukranian depots a day since the war started hasn't affected Ukraine's ability to wage this war.
Basically clicking your heels like Dorothy while saying "there is no place like home", wishing to be back in Kansas, and completely ignoring every report the Russians are outgunning Ukranians at every turn just because the Russians have gotten stuck mostly by their own choice of wanting to fight this war in the most inefficient way possible under some stupid self-impossed limitations.
Not unlike like the US self impossed ROE screwing them in Vietnam; except the Vietnamese did know how to wage a war that didn't alientate the other half of the country as "subhumans worthy of extermination".
Black Shark
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That's exactly how Ukrainian war works. They are braindead at this war and do only and exclusively like the Pentagon tells them. No tactical or strategic thinking, no capability just cheap shots for Twitter shits and giggles.
One should not take this conflict as a template for any real conflict or war of the 21st century. Russia is holding back big time, fighting slowly to reduce casualties amongst civilian population while Ukraine is a xeno controlled asset. IF they get told make a dirty bomb and throw it on Kiev they will do it and blame Putin and Russia. It is a braindead situation. Russian's will support the SMO since Ukraine has achieved it all by itself with all the proven atrocities they have committed just to blame the Russians. Ukraine doesn't exit anymore and it will "gift" any territories not controlled by Russia to NATO just to point middle finger towards Russia. How do you call such a nation and government?
Doesn’t any normal person know that, one small win for Ukraine and they somehow negated the fact that Ukraine has lost a lot of territory and has killed or incapacitated at least 195k Ukrainian while suffering only a ration of the loses. Really if the loses continue to pile up, Ukraine is basically done and sooner or later, the west will not be able to hide the truth any more. I wonder, the USA has already suffer to debacles in the last two years, and soon with the raid on Trumps home and the events in Taiwan, they are about to suffer even greater levels of humiliation. The USA has truly no dignity right now
That is pretty FUBAR sounds like Ukraine is the definition of SNAFU
Don't get it.
It means that Russia will get what it wants, the only question is the damage caused in the neigbrought.
Like if an angry, two meter 150kg muscle guy want back his crying daughter's toy from you then the only question is how much damage will you suffer before he will remove the doll from your hand.
And thinking if he say "I will punch you in the face" showing his weakness is the most stupid thing in the world. It is just an indication of the future waiting for you if he won't get what he want.