Thats a big if. Personally I would estimate the Russian KIA at about 7-10k
The War in the Ukraine
- Thread starter SampanViking
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Clearly those numbers are beyond the 8 missiles a Tor can carry.
Wasnt there another Tor on the landing ship that got hit by a TB-2?
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i dont think Russia has published any numbers. so from where these numbers troops came from.
in Syria they published numbers once in while but it showed very high level of rotations. almost 15 rotations of 5K troops each if that is assumed baseline number.
plawolf
Lieutenant General
If I was to ask you what the biggest failings of the early Russian campaign was besides poor use of air power, I would guess you will say logistics. If they were struggling and failing to keep 250k soldiers properly supplied in the field before, how do you think their logistics will handle a million soldiers at the front with all the losses they have suffered in logistics support vehicles and personnel already?
I dare say that if they did surge a million troops in as things stand, their logistics will kill more of those troops than the Ukrainians!
Also, just as you need 3 warships for every one you could operationally deploy in the long run, you can never field 100% of the troops you technically have available, even if you can support them all logistically. Because just as people cannot work 24/7 for long periods, they cannot fight wars 24/7. You need downtime to rest, catch your breath and refit before you can go back onto the front or your combat effectiveness is going to drop, drastically.
Which is another factor that seems to sail blissfully over the heads of the Zelensky regime in how they are running this war. The Ukrainians are fully committed for a short war, but increasingly, it looks like the Russians are gearing up for a long slog. This miss-match in combat posture and preparedness is going to become more and more relevant on the battlefield as time drags on; when the Russians can rotate in fresh troops while the Ukrainians are over-committed without reserves and their frontline troops become weary and exhausted from months of constantly being on the line eating crappy field rations and always being on edge all the time.
A major reason is NATO thinks it detects a gap between an upper limit set by the level of conflict where the Russians think using tactical nuclear weapon is warranted, and the lower limit set by the level the Russians could be effectively stopped from making any long term gains on Ukraine. The latter is believe to be achievable without state of the art heavy weaponry, while supply of modern heavy weaponry would breach the upper limit.
Russia has already made long term gains. Even if it gains nothing new starting today the land and population losses so far are crippling to Ukraine. It'll be something like 7-8 million people now living under Russian management and 20% of industry.
Broccoli
Senior Member
Ukrainians are going after Russian supply lines.
Broccoli
Senior Member
Are your average airmen any better than conscripts? Who's gonna man those navy ships they have sailors doing ground operations with their limited training?