The War in the Ukraine
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Meh I strongly suspect against the idea that Ukraine targeted their own prisoners on purpose. Any important prisoners can just be driven to Moscow if needed. So you know for sure the prisoners who stayed behind had no useful Intel.
@Janiz UNHCR is indeed quite credible source, especially when it's the CAR itself who commissioned the report. Allegations of "including arbitrary detention, torture, disappearances and summary execution, a pattern that continues unabated and unpunished" seems terrible and shouldn't be the type of practices a civilized nation concerns itself with.
Through for the LDPR, using Wagner might be a question of having no other choices. They need experienced infantrymen.
Perhaps now, Ukrainians will instead point towards Russia's single purchased Himars as the culprit lol
No need to, considering Ukrainians have recorded themselves doing such things. On a related note, interesting how the videos of such brutalities seem to have diminished after Mariupol fell and most of Azov got captured.
Must be a coincidence.
I mean, there even is an account of a western journalist embeded with Ukranian troops witnessing a mock execution of russian POWs, gonna argue it's russian material too?
As a matter of fact, yes and plenty of evidence of it even in a curated pro-western site like wikipedia. Then again, you actually think NATO is a defensive alliance, so...
It could just simply have been a matter of bad intel or mistaken identity. Saw some russian troops movements around the place and mistankely assumed it was a russian barrack
Not necessarily could have been done out of malice or some nefarious plan. Friendly fire is not that uncommon for the Ukranians, even if some times the Russians seem to want to catch up on that end.
I could tell you about some other entities that were never known for terrible things, and overnight they became known as the worst culprits for any number of attrocities, in recorded history.
There seems to be a small group of posters in this thread (in the pro ukraine / anti russia camp) who are honest and trying to understand the world with a single eye through a straw, or, they are here to fight an information war for a certain side of this conflict that is very desperate.
As to your comment about NATO, my gut feeling tells me that being told we (NATO) are angels, by people who we have caught red handed sleeping with the devil and lieing to us over and over again, for decades about any number of topics, should not bode well for anyones trust. I suppose the most important factor is first one has to recognize we have become an empire of lies much like what was the Soviet Union. Before this, its not even possible to consider applying critical thinking to what we were programmed to interpret as "gospel" and ask no questions.
I was just reviewing Colonelcassads telegram and I noticed several reports of UAF shelling Elenovka with BM21 towards this POW camp since July 22, again on July 23, and on and on until the report of HIMARS strike on the camp.
I don't think it was an accident of mistaken identity. They were clearly targeting this place for a week
Makes you wonder about Ukrainians now saying oh it was the Russians! What a cheap propaganda war this is, they put so many man hours into it, but hardly any effort.
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What's the motive again if Russia killed all these Azov prisoners? Wouldn't it be much better if the Russians kept them alive as a pr stunt?
It's highly likely that this is indeed a Ukrainian doing, even there's a report of HIMARS debris in there...
It's highly likely that this is indeed a Ukrainian doing, even there's a report of HIMARS debris in there...
They have a very limited supply of these rockets and this is what they choose to use them on. Shows you what their priorities are.
