The War in the Ukraine

RottenPanzer

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Meanwhile in Kiev:

Bad news: we tried as hard as we could and there are just no more Brezhnev-era armour to be dug out of tank graveyards
Good news: we did manage to find some Khrushchev-era armour
Is it just me or some of the vehicles seems to have rusted steel quality? Or is it because of the camera optics?
TASS also saying Seversk is under LPR control.
Wow and it's not even the end of the week!
I will assume that Slaviansk and Kramatorsk area would also be captured next week with how fast things are moving on...
 
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Biscuits

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TASS also saying Seversk is under LPR control.
So, exactly as I predicted, isolated strikes which Ukraine always did before with greater efficiency when they still had Smerch and Tochka now using himars were useless on the battlefield level.

Looks like the Kherson offensive didn't go well for the Ukrainians:

As you can see, striking 3-4 ammo depots when there is likely almost 100 total in the area has done nothing to deplete the firepower of the Russian army.

This is why claims must be viewed using critical thinking, given twitter is moderated by the US government, and filled with paid commentators. Likewise, sensationalist Russian claims must be viewed skeptically. I would for example not believe Ukraine would sell 1/20 of their new MLRS for a mere 800k to Russia until I see a photo of a himars with a V or Z on it. Ukraine has in the past made real gains such as the defense of Kiev, but a bunch of shills talking about himars filling routine roles which even ancient grads were doing does not a real gain make.
 

tankphobia

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The main problem is that magazine depth as clearly there are always more artillery projectiles needs to be intercepted than the interceptor's missiles.

i.e Snake Island, Russian deploys at least 4 mobile SAM's Pantsyr and Tor but they only have in total assuming 2 Tor and Pantsyr 56 missiles. While Ukraine can cheaply saturates them from the shore with hundreds of rockets and artillery shells.
With good enough computing and radars, you can probably put together a system similar to Israel Iron dome that ignores projectiles that won't hit a designated zone, allowing better economics in terms of defense, if Israel claims are accurate about 50k/iron dome missile it's not even that expensive to prevent operational loss of units.
 

Suetham

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They have V on them (Vostok?), which seems to be Russian Army proper. I believe LDPR use their flags. This is just my observed trend, have you seen LDPR use the letters?
The LDNR troops are integrated into the 8th CAA. They are already Russian military proper.

The Tochka-U was a response to a formal request by Pushilin for Russia to send more Iskander to Donbass to contain the attacks that were taking place in Donetsk, as there were Tochka-U available, which were sent to carry out the attack on AFU troops. and stop the indiscriminate bombing of Donbass.
 

drowingfish

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Wasn't those Tochka would be deployed only by LDPR troops? Not the Russians?
people are reading too much into the tochka thing. the decision to pull them out was likely made weeks ago if not longer. it takes time to check them over and refurbish then transport. so the decision to deploy them is likely not linked to recent events on the ground.
 
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