Odessa is important but is it militarily feasible? Not sure. Long salient, large city, big issues.
The War in the Ukraine
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This is an updated map of Luhansk oblast battle. It looks it will be over by the weekend.
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Looks like all roads from Lysychansk have been cut off. The city will soon be "behind enemy lines" just like Mariupol was. It made no sense to withdraw from Severdonetsk so quickly, the Ukrainians must have left a lot of heavy equipment there.
Anyone keeping an eye on the foreign mercenaries whereabouts? A lot were in the pocket before the latest advances.
It's also interesting how high Russians have been claiming Ukrainian casualties are. Normally it is 3-400, yesterday it was 1,000. There must have been a lot of heavy fighting/shelling.
I think Odessa will be feasible 10 to 20 years from now. For the time being Russia will keep depopulating Ukraine. 10 to 20 years from now Ukraine's population should fall to below 30 million, and without fuel, in abject poverty.
The problem is Russia wants to keep the cities after the war, so wants to keep them intact.
Ukrainians use hostages and every time they're under siege they start killing them to force the Russians to assault instead of starving the garrison of supplies. That's why the tactics Russia used effectively in Syria failed to work in Ukraine. When ISIS held cities were put under siege they didn't have ethnic Russian civilians as hostages.
Things could change, it takes foreign mercenaries or Nazis like Azov to kill civilians, thankfully most of the later are now dead or in captivity. The Ukrainian strategy wasn't implemented properly in Sieverdonetsk, probably because they were mainly conscripts and not Nazis.
Odessa is garrisoned by a Nazi battalion Aidar so I would avoid putting it under siege unless absolutely necessary.
Odessa is culturally important to Russia. They won't want it to be destroyed during the conquest. It would be better to first destroy as much of the Ukrainian armed forces as possible so it can be taken with minimal damage later. Zaporizhzhia is much more exposed to being surrounded the Russians using the river
Separate units of the Ukrainian army began to leave Lisichansk under the blows of Russian artillery. The Ukrainian command ordered the units to leave the city so as not to be surrounded by the Russian army. In order to minimize losses, the Armed Forces of Ukraine were ordered to retreat in small groups with a large interval and distance.” Earlier it became known that the territory of the Lisichansk oil refinery was taken under control by the forces of the Russian Army.
They did it in Kramatorsk too: deporting most civilians to western Ukraine and keeping a few as hostages.
An update on the situation in Luhansk oblast. Should be wrapping it up over the next few days.
An update on the situation and the noose continues to tighten on Luhansk oblast.
An update on the situation and the noose continues to tighten on Luhansk oblast.
I do not know how long the deliveries are estimated, but if they are in the short term, it would be the entry of NATO using the conflict with Ukraine
I guess Russia will announce a new phase of its operation
I guess Russia will announce a new phase of its operation