The War in the Ukraine

Janiz

Senior Member
Russians claim it wasn't their mi24 that got shot down:
Don't post unverified information as truth - we can confirm now that was Russian Mi-35M. As for the paint schema - look at this video (especially after 0:20). Looks like a familiar paint scheme?
We will have wreckage pictures to confirm soon enough probably.
No problem with identification in this case as we can clearly see the markings making this case 100% legit
That isn't a TB camera, though, given the difference of display indicators and crosshair, but nice try. Also congrats, hit a tug, impressive I guess.
It's exactly the same as previous footage from Snake Island? And I know you aren't too detailed in the maritime matters but at the time when Russian fleet in Sevastopol is mainly conducting missions of "go to the roads outside of the harbor, hide behind a shield of civilian ships and fire Kalibrs" type I think that everything counts. Especially when another Tor is lost together with a very large oceanic tug (yep, those are Kuz's best friends).
 

Abominable

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It's exactly the same as previous footage from Snake Island? And I know you aren't too detailed in the maritime matters but at the time when Russian fleet in Sevastopol is mainly conducting missions of "go to the roads outside of the harbor, hide behind a shield of civilian ships and fire Kalibrs" type I think that everything counts. Especially when another Tor is lost together with a very large oceanic tug (yep, those are Kuz's best friends).
It could be from a TB2, maybe that sensor is the Turkish version rather than the Canadian one which explains the lower quality.

Either way it is being used as surveillance, whatever took out that boat wasn't launched from a TB-2.
 

Richard Santos

Captain
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The more Ukraine resists the more territory they lose. Ukraine at the moment is not interested in negotiating. And for Zelensky it’s politically impossible for him to accept territorial losses. If he does the Neo Nazi battalions and SBU radicals will kill him along with his family. Even when they lose the Donbass and have heavy losses I doubt they’ll change their tune. In short Russia will take the ancestral Novorussiya lands turning West Ukraine into a land locked failed state. This is what Putin meant when he said “decommunization.”
Zelensky is not exactly a consummate politician and canny geostrategist. He doesn’t seem to have consistent grand strategic view. He fell into the position of national leadership not because his thoughtful position on issues but because he starred in a popular TV comedy that made fun of the corrupt nature of ukrainian politics. His policy advocacy seems to me to betray some indications of bipolar disorder that alternated between period of maniacal energy and periods of passivity and fatalism.

His manically energy is not menifested in the form of getting lots of complex things done because he simply lack the skill and experience to get complex things done. his period of maniacal energy is menifested in marathon bellicose, fist pumping, speech giving in front of friendly foreign parliaments, grandiose proclamations of relentless pursuit of complete uncompromising Ukrainian victory borne out of high moral principles, and reflexive condemnation of anyone suggesting the end of the current conflict can or ought to be otherwise.

When he is off of his maniacal high his behavior transitions to making doom and gloom statements about how no one in the world would be safe if russia won,

When he is in his full on low depressive mode he would be all passive and be willing to negotiate based on territorial concessions and neutrality with respect to EU or NATO.

of course the US had taken pains to magnify his maniacal phase while that facilitated squeezing more Russia hurting juice out of Ukraine. Now that the US seem to think almost every last drop has been wrung out, it wants to be able to soon wash its hands of Ukraine, so it is now hinting his depressive mode is now a more suitable mode.
 

alfreddango

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JebKerman

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Don't post unverified information as truth
I didn't though. I said "russians claimed", note how I didn't even comment on who shot it down because I can't tell from the video. you are claiming what you are saying is verified truth, but it's just a link to UAWeapons twitter with people debating if it's the right crash site and some deleted tweets.
 

Richard Santos

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yesterday the german chancellor, the italian pm and the french president went to kiev and met zelensky.
these countries have been pushing for a peace deal in the last few weeks.
today, the british pm went to kiev unannounced and probably urged zelensky to refuse any compromise and keep fighting.

some ukrainians (psyops maybe? possible) give some insight into the larger play at work here
The further one is from Ukraine, the more eagerly one urges the Ukrainians to keep on dying..
 

FriedButter

Colonel
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What are the chances of the bridge getting destroyed by MLRS anyway? And even then, NATO only supplied a limited amount of their MLRS and considering the state of Ukrainian TBM and MLRS, i doubt the could really destroy the bridge

Recent southfront also discuss the possibility of Ukraine destroying the bridge through NATO supplied MLRS and from the looks of it, there were some disagreement within NATO itself

Even if it doesn’t get destroyed. It will probably put it under maintenance for the next few to several months.

Ukraine is in total denial over the fact that the US has determined that there is not much more Russia hurting juice that can be squeezed out of Ukraine, so is now pressuring Ukraine to give up land so the US can wash her hands of the Ukraine war.

So Ukraine thinks by pointing to the Russian bear and saying bad things about it, the US can be pursuaded to put some more pleasant Russia bear killing fantasy in front of Ukraine for Ukraine to indulge in by way of escape from reality.

One of the things I think is a possibility is Ukraine throwing up their hands and going all out against Russia. As a punishment against the West for failing to provide and delaying the heavy equipment and NATO arms deliveries.
 
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