The War in the Ukraine

Abominable

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This is pretty suspicious, i don't believe this messages at all, this might have been a PR campaign done by LDPR militants or probably Russian forces
It's anything but suspicious. A lot of people who end up with these western ATGMs have had no training at all on how to operate them. Western equipment is designed for western soldiers who have the luxury of weeks of training.. A 2 hour crash course or a translated leaflet and you will have problems like this in the field.
 

FriedButter

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This is pretty suspicious, i don't believe this messages at all, this might have been a PR campaign done by LDPR militants or probably Russian forces
I don’t think it’s entirely impossible. Ukraine just admitted 200 soldiers were killed per day. Now add the uncounted wounded and it starts adding up fast. Alexander Mer. in past videos said that the images of front line troops seem to be getting older and older. Those troops probably don’t have sufficient training.
 
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FriedButter

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Abominable

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It could be that the Azot plant has not been well supplied or stockpiled compared to the Azov plant.
I doubt that.

Azovstal had hardcore Nazis who were prepared to resort to extreme measures to stay out of Russian custody. For many of them surrendering was a death sentence.

If this plant has regular territorial units there won't be the same motivation to resist. A lot of them probably wanted to surrender or defect already.
 

FairAndUnbiased

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It could be that the Azot plant has not been well supplied or stockpiled compared to the Azov plant.
Just for a comparison of what Azovstal looks like, this is the old Shougang plant in Beijing, now a ski resort.

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Note the solid concrete buildings everywhere and the extensive use of steel frame.

Here's what the inside looks like.

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Yeah these plants are fortresses.
 

RottenPanzer

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Claimed to be Ukrainian corvette sunk in Ochakov
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More detailed report:

"In Ochakov, Ukro corvette and landing ship were sunk by Russian rocket artillery. If you check the map provided by Hole you can see tiny peninsula liberated by Russians. Apparently there rocket artillery were placed. No official confirmation though."

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Overbom

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Claimed to be Ukrainian corvette sunk in Ochakov
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More detailed report:

"In Ochakov, Ukro corvette and landing ship were sunk by Russian rocket artillery. If you check the map provided by Hole you can see tiny peninsula liberated by Russians. Apparently there rocket artillery were placed. No official confirmation though."

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Kinda crazy how long it took them to attack it. These ships (especially the corvete) should had been sunk at the first wave of attacks at day 0 or day 1.

Its incomprehensible that after 4 months of war that you allow the opponent to still have a corvete available.
 

Corona

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Very clear footage of Ukrainian armour getting destroyed by Russia's artillery :
Airborne Troops' artillery units in action during the special military operation, Msta-S crews marched to the designated area, immediately took up a firing position and struck the enemy's reconnoitered targets. In the course of the raid, they destroyed armoured vehicles of the Ukrainian Armed Forces at camouflaged positions.

More Ukrainian Forces surrendered :
Captured soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. AFU and Teritorial Defemse fighters should make the only right decision-surrender to the Soldiers of Russia.

Another summer vacation went wrong, Ukraine forces under Russian's artillery fire. Sounds like the guy recording this is crying :
 
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