The War in the Ukraine

Soldier30

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A resident of the Tyumen region of Russia filmed a train of military equipment. The video shows the M1989 Koksan self-propelled guns produced by the DPRK, which were previously shown, and an unknown model of military equipment. The video is of low quality and it is difficult to draw conclusions, the outlines of the installations are similar to the North Korean Pukguksong-2 ballistic missile installations. So far, there is no convincing damage that Russia has received Pukguksong-2 missiles.

Pukguksong-2 missiles, KN-15 according to Western classification, were adopted by the DPRK in 2017. The name of the missile - Pukguksong-2 - is translated as "Polar Star". Presumably, the missile is a land-based version of the Pukguksong solid-fuel missile for submarines. Pukguksong-2 missiles are mounted on the chassis of the T-62 tank, the production of which is established in the DPRK. According to North Korean media, the range of the Pukguksong-2 missiles is from 3,000 to 5,500 kilometers; according to Western experts, the range of the missiles is up to 2,500 km.

 

FairAndUnbiased

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Is the cheapness inherent to the FPV design, or just difference in manufacture? Ex: corruption in military production vs mil-civil fusion production for drones.
IMO its FPV design.

They use much cheaper parts.

FPV: injection molded polymer rotors and mechanical parts, commercial grade electrical motors and batteries, optical guidance via phone camera.

ATGM: solid rocket motors, liquid nitrogen cooled IR guidance.

Solid rocket motors are much more expensive and difficult to mass produce than injection molded rotors and commercially available motors.

IR sensors are much more expensive than phone.

The difference is that the FPV is not quite fire and forget, it is command guidance. The FPV operator is immobile while attacking the target, the ATGM team can shoot and run.
 

Tootensky

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I wonder why Russians haven't tried using regular FPVs to drop GPS trackers on some damaged equipment instead of finishing it off. When the Ukrainians retrieve it, it would inevitably find its way to repair facilities, and they could bomb that instead.
 

plawolf

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IMO its FPV design.

They use much cheaper parts.

FPV: injection molded polymer rotors and mechanical parts, commercial grade electrical motors and batteries, optical guidance via phone camera.

ATGM: solid rocket motors, liquid nitrogen cooled IR guidance.

Solid rocket motors are much more expensive and difficult to mass produce than injection molded rotors and commercially available motors.

IR sensors are much more expensive than phone.

The difference is that the FPV is not quite fire and forget, it is command guidance. The FPV operator is immobile while attacking the target, the ATGM team can shoot and run.

It’s not all, or even mainly about lower spec parts and worse functionality. Only the most modern and expensive ATGMs are fire and forget. The overwhelming majority of in service ATGMs world wide are still command guided. Uncooled IR sensors are actually more technologically advanced than cooled.

The biggest drivers of the low cost of FPVs are technological advancements and economies of scale.

The low KP of FPVs are also to be expected given they are jerry-rigged commercial toys and tools.

Dedicated military mini-drones are not available outside of China, but those are the true revolutionary weapons that marries the cheap unit price of FPVs with true swarm capability to allow autonomous tracking and engagement of a large number of small, non-cooperative targets in complex environments.

It’s easy to see why China doesn’t want to reveal that ace when it faces the very real possibility of war itself. Better to let it’s enemies continue to invest heavily in legacy tech and weapons if they are dead set on a new arms race.
 

plawolf

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I wonder why Russians haven't tried using regular FPVs to drop GPS trackers on some damaged equipment instead of finishing it off. When the Ukrainians retrieve it, it would inevitably find its way to repair facilities, and they could bomb that instead.

Who’s to say they don’t? But if they do, it’s obviously not something they would want to advertise.
 

Tam

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Destroyed Australian Bushmaster.

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M577 catastrophically hits a mine. These are command vehicles, so if there was anyone in that vehicle when it went off, that would a significant loss. Kursk region.

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Russians captured Lozovaya in the Kharkhiv region and Sontsovka in the DPR according to the MoD.

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Lancet kills including two T-64BVs.

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FABs used against Ukrainian UAV crews. Sadove, Kherson region.

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Ka-52M trying to intercept Ukrainian drone over the Oryol region.

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Kozak-7 taken out by drone strike.

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Ukrainian machine gun site taken out by the 2nd Artillery Brigade.

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Ukrainian FPV drone shot out of the sky with an assault rifle.

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Tam

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Iranian made shell for D-30 122mm howitzer. The war has shown the battle learned the great value of smaller, shorter ranged but more mobile, easier to transport, more convenient to situate, smaller caliber artillery like the D-30 and 2S1 Gvozdika, and that it's time to develop a modern replacement when the Soviet pieces finally runs out.

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Heavily modified BMP-3.

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BMP-2M with Berezhok and anti drone grills.

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Destroyed Roschel Senator in the Pokrovsk direction.

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Two Roschel Senators taken out by drone strikes in the Toretsk direction. These things seem to die a lot.

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Another M109 found destroyed in the Kursk region, likely by a Lancet.

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The 60th MR Brigade takes the village of Storozhevoye in the Velikaya Novoselka sector.

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Baba Yaga shot down by sniper.

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A British FV432 is being towed away by the Russians to the rear.

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Not to link pictures of passports, IDs and prisoner interviews, Ukraine is depleting its own air defenses by sending air defense personnel to the trenches as cannon fodder.

Ukrainian FPV drones missing as assaulting Russian troops carry portable EW units.

 
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Soldier30

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An episode of the battle of the Russian 114th brigade in the Kurakhovsky direction, in the Donbass. During the battle, a Russian portable electronic warfare system was used, protecting soldiers from drones. The model of the electronic warfare system is not reported. The video shows an attack by a Ukrainian FPV drone, which, under the influence of the electronic warfare system, cannot hit the soldiers, as a result, the drone falls.

 

Tam

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Russians captured the Severny micro district in Chasiv Yar. By the 98th VDV.

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US supplied radio frequency direction finder gets bombed by a Russian drone.

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Bad news for OSINT pro Ukrainian Deep State bloggers where many are getting their mapping information from. They haven't been updating their maps the last few days and everyone are wondering that the worst has happened to the team. One speculation is that the team may have been killed in the missile strike on the SBU building. Another is that Syrsky is fed up with them, with no good report other than one Ukrainian positions after another getting caught in a cauldron. Now he wants to send the Deep State team to the front as fodder where they will almost certainly face death. Syrsky has been criticized of mobilizing air defense teams, repair and maintenance people, doctors and medical teams, into the frontline trenches.

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Need to confirm this story. Did the Deep State team tried to cross over to Romania?

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Electrical substations west of Kurakhovo, hit by a drone from the Sudoplatov unit.

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Kursk region. Destroyed 2S22 Bogdana 155mm SPG found.

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Russian forces have closed the Makarovka salient. Ukrainian forces within the bubble are now cut off and left with only two options, surrender or die.

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Velikaya Novoselka itself is now in operational encirclement.

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Courier robot at work reaching the outskirts of Velikaya Novoselka where it conducted a reconnaissance in force. After launching an AGS-17 grenade attack on Ukrainian positions, it was ambushed by six Ukrainian FPV drones.

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150,000 Ukrainians crossed over to the Polish border in a 24 hour period.

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Four FABs arrive on Ukrainian positions in the Kherson region.

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ATGM from elements of Group Center strikes a Ukrainian position.

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Ukrainian UAV intercepted by a missile from a Tor-M2 complex.

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FPV drones from the "Irish" unit strike at Ukrainian gun emplacements in the Kursk region.

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A "Loaf" or Bukhanka used for medical purposes and with an EW unit on top.

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X-51 Lancet strike on a Leopard 2A4 in third person view.


Massed Grad MLRS attack on a Ukrainian force accumulation.

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Russian Zu-23 flak guns take out a Fury and a Leleka-100 drone.

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Russian AA team discussed work taking out drones with gunfire.

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Artillery hit on one of the houses Ukrainians holed up on.

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Bombardment in the Kursk salient.

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Soldier30

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An episode of the battle between the Russian robotic platform NRTK "Courier" and the Ukrainian FPV drone. Technical information on the ground drone NRTK "Courier" is in the link to the video in the comments to the video. In this case, the robot can be said to have replaced the reconnaissance squad. In this configuration, the Russian robot NRTK "Courier" is equipped with an AGS-17 grenade launcher. The task of the military robot "Courier" was to conduct reconnaissance in the area of the settlement of Velyka Novosyolka in the Donbass, and it was also supposed to shell the positions of the Ukrainian army in the settlement.

The robot completed the task, reached the settlement and shelled the positions. The range of the robot was 8 kilometers. On the way to the settlement, the robot NRTK "Courier" successfully overcame four minefields, one anti-tank ditch and one barbed wire fence. When the ammunition was exhausted and the Russian robot was retreating to its initial positions, it was attacked by Ukrainian FPV drones. As a result of the Ukrainian drone strikes, the Russian robot lost its speed and was abandoned. The NRTK "Courier" robot is currently the most actively used robot by the Russian army in Ukraine.

 
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