The War in the Ukraine

Corona

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Russian Sources about Zaporizhzhia :
The first Russian passports will be issued to residents of the Zaporozhye region on Russia Day on June 12, the head of the military-civilian administration of the region said. Soon the system of bank cards will be launched in Zaporozhye region The head of the military-civilian administration of the Zaporozhye

 

Overbom

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One thing I’ve heard is that they’re training some sort of miracle Western equipped army with Polish T72s, M109, etc. but it seems like they’re just being sen
Presumably they want to train them but the meat grinder on Donbass is so serious that they cannot afford to "waste" time on withholding troops from the frontline
 

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FairAndUnbiased

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I guess the 1 week training didn’t include shoot and scoot tactics or counter battery fire.
Interesting phenomena: as the reality gets worse, the propaganda gets more and more shrill.

Back in the 90s during the US unipolar moment most Americans would just shrug and say "I don't know too much about politics, that's for guys up top to decide."

Now half the people are armchair general chickenhawks who says things like "we must defend western civilization " or some shit like a Nazi German SS general.
 

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TOS-1 operating strong at Kherson:
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Still in Kherson, bombings to the south of the city, marked by drones:
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Rare image of a T-72 firing at a target and destroying it, in this case a BMP-1. Apparently it must be a donated BMP-1, unpainted, received and already placed on the front line by the AFU.
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Russian Air Force is already bombing Lysychansk, so the presence of anti-aircraft battery in this place should be little or none, apart from MANPADS:
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Svyatogorsk has been declared fully liberated, as well as an adjacent city:
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AIFV (M113) captured near Severodonetsk:
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Russian counterbattery against AFU's M109. It is said to be in the Kherson region:
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Su-30SM trying to shoot down a Mi-14, still from May:
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Ukraine is equipping demonstration fighters with missiles for use in war:
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Situation that would be in Severodonetsk and Voronove:
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And some considerations:

About the video of the T-72 destroying a BMP-1, there is no tactical importance in it, but something doctrinal, which the Ukrainians also did: use of drones to guide tanks.

With Svyatagorsk and, apparently, Tetyanivka, they secure the flank for movement against Slovyansk directly, without the risks of building movable bridges over the Donets against Raihorodok and Donets'ke. Here there is a perfect possibility for airborne landing for the VDV, especially against Majaky.

Syrodove has already become the focus of Russian artillery, so it will be difficult for the AFU to retreat to that region, the most possible is that they will retreat to the forest around Majaky, as the rest are small villages with little vegetation.

I posted about the M109 for the same reason as the T-72, to pay attention to the details. It's not the first time I've seen Russian counter-battery fire hit a three-piece Ukrainian Howitzer battery, and that's strange. From what I researched last year, the Ukrainian Artillery manual still derives from the USSR, operating five or six howitzers in a single battery, without subdivisions, as is the case with the Russians. The Russians, in the 2008 reform, divided their Batteries into two Platoons with three pieces each, but I didn't see the same movement from the Ukrainians. In fact, at the beginning of the war, it was common to see that the Ukrainian Batteries were always accompanied by six howitzers.

Organization of a post-2008 Russian Battery:
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All Ukrainian Batteries, in support of the Brigades, have a formation similar to the USSR, in which an Artillery Battalion has two batteries of self-propelled howitzer (2S21 or 2S23), two batteries of self-towed howitzer (D-20 or D-30), one anti-tank battery (MT-12) and a rocket battery (BM-21). The post-2008 Russians are very similar, but the batteries were split into subgroups, AR howitzers serve more as support or defensive postures, as the Russian Army has become much more aggressive with post-2008 tactics, with extensive use of mobile artillery, greater use of MLRS and replacement of the T-12 and Sprud-T for vehicles with anti-tank missiles, such as Kornet-D and other versions under BMP and MT-LB, firing various types of anti-tank missiles. Such modernization did not occur with the Ukrainians, with the 2015-2018 reform serving more for the creation of Territorial Defense Brigades and exchange in Command Posts.

In this case, it seems to me that maybe the Ukrainians are cutting their batteries by half, in order to have a greater range of use of the remaining equipment they have, which leads me to believe that a good part of the Ukrainian artillery pieces were destroyed. This can be proven by a video I released here of the Russians destroying three pieces of MT-12, which were apparently in indirect fire formation. MT-12 is a 100mm anti-tank gun, which fires up to APFSDS, but I imagine they would be using 3OF12 and 3OF35 shells, which are High-Explosive Fragmentation, as artillery pieces. They may also have changed doctrine, which I highly doubt, it's crazy to change doctrine with a war going on.

This isn't just true for self-propelled artillery, but we've seen M777 and FH70 being hit in three-piece batteries. The Ukrainians today are in a heterogeneous mix of USSR and Western doctrine with the troops they trained with NATO, much of those Brigades like the Kraken and Azov, 93rd and 92nd, these being more Western doctrine, especially in irregular warfare. , on the other hand, there are brigades such as the 28th and 14th, which still use combat doctrine from the USSR. Then there are the Territorial Defense Brigades, which basically do not follow any doctrine, they are more troops formed by local volunteers, with minimal military training, serving to increase the number of other Brigades in the region.

About the AIFV (Dutch version), a video was shown of T-72M1 equipped with Kontakt-1 or even 4S22 filament (ERA 155) along with YPR-765 heading to Severodonetsk for the fighting in the city and at dawn this video appeared . YPR-765 were donated to equip only one Brigade or less. The exact number of vehicles sent is unknown, but some suggest between 50-80 vehicles, between armored troop transport vehicles and others. The version with 25 mm guns was not sent, he suggests. The other donated M113s were used to create the 60th Brigade, in Kryvyv Rih.

Regarding the bombing in Lysychansk, allied to that of Mykolaiv and in places close to Dnipro, such as Lozove, it seems that all AAe defense material donated to Ukraine, especially the S-300PM1, must be destroyed or transferred to Kiev, because the VVS has acted basically free in these regions. Even the Su-27P that was shot down by friendly fire is being told that it was a MANPADS that shot it down. As Ukraine, in the last few weeks, has been asking, above all, AAe defense systems, most likely they no longer have medium to long range systems, maybe now there are only short range systems left, mostly MANPADS.

Journalists covering some areas in cities like Mykolaiv and Lysychansk, claim to see Russian fighter jets flying and bombing the cities, so practically the AFU no longer has the power to limit, at least, VVS actions.
 

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The Russians began a new offensive to expand the "Flower of Popasna", now in the direction of Bakhmut. Russian artillery is already operating in precision strikes towards the city:
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While in Svyatogorsk, what was said to be the AFU who detonated the bridge was actually shots from Krasponol by the Russians.
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More equipment being shipped, suspected to be Kherson:
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Considerations.

Bakhmut is very important, even with the Russians blocking the passage of supplies through the Bakhmut-Lysychansk link highway, largely because it is a major road junction, which will allow the Russians to carry out offensives in the rear of the AFU's southern defense lines. Operations should intensify in this region in the coming days.

The Russians' intention in blowing up the bridge, in my opinion, served to lock down AFU troops defending the city and retreating from other positions, such as Yarove and Pasika. Most likely the AFU troops must have swam away and abandoned the city's defense equipment in the region. The condition of another bridge is unknown, 4 km away, in the town of Bohorodynchne.

It appears that it has been confirmed that the shipment of the T-62M was indeed to Kherson and not to DPR. This means that the Russians sent T-80UD, T-72B and T-62M to the region. If the deployment of these MLRS is confirmed, it is clear here a concentration of troops for an offensive in Mykolaiv.

The T-62M, despite being a very old vehicle, has a relatively modern fire control system. The T-62 received modernization last year, in September 2021, to the "M" standard, which especially comprises a drastic change in the fire control system, receiving a second-generation thermal vision system, shooting computer and laser rangefinder. .

The use of these T-62s can be very similar to what the Russians did in Syria, where the T-62 basically operated as an MGS, firing at long range against medium and light vehicles, as well as infantry and defense infrastructure, while the tip The advance spear was made with "newer" tanks such as T-72 and T-90A, both Syrian and Russian.

Considering that the Russians sent T-80UDs and T-72Bs, most likely the T-62Ms will have exactly the same use as they were in Syria, operating in defense lines or as support for the second-line Motorized Infantry operating in the region, while T -80UD and T-72B perform the spearhead.

On the part of the AFU, I saw that they managed to put four T-84s to fight, apart from the donated T-64BV and T-72M/CZM, but they must have lost dozens of tanks. In one of the attacks, they recognized having lost 15 tanks in the VVS attack on Mykolaiv, in addition to 21 other armored vehicles. So, in addition to the slight superiority already existing at Kherson with Russian tanks, the superiority must increase to be enough to sustain a Russian offensive in the region, exploiting the losses and the failure of the AFU to have made its offensive in the region.

Severodonestsk:
What is known is that the Severodonetsk T.O, at first, was occupied by two reinforced regiments of Chechens and LPR, being received two Brigades from the Russians yesterday. Today, at dawn, the Russians started another offensive on the broad front, taking the fighting to the industrial zone, dislodging the AFU that occupied Vorozone and another adjacent city whose name I don't know.

In any case, the behavior of the Russians in Severodonetsk needs to be analyzed, as this is already the third time they have retreated and counterattacked the Ukrainians, pushing them back into the industrial zone. I think that maybe the Russians want the Ukrainians to continue accumulating troops in the region to decrease the Ukrainians' defensive capacity in the neighboring cities of Lysychansk. This is my guess, but the certainty is that the Russians will not attack Lysychansk through Severodonetsk, as it is too risky to cross the two remaining bridges or build there, it would be under direct fire threat.

The Russians have greatly intensified operations heading Northwest from Popasna, the thorn in the side is the 17th Armored Brigade occupying Zolote, while the Russians are strengthening operations around Zolote, trying to create a cauldron with the 17th's troops. . What I find unbelievable is how the AFU continues to send troops to Severodonetsk and has not read that the Russians may be wanting just that. They should start a counterattack in the Popasna region.

In the meantime, updates:

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Here are some considerations:

The Russians have now expelled the entire AFU from the North bank of the Donets and it seems to me that it was a priority for the Russians to do this, as, shortly after this action, the Russians started two operations, one to extend operations in the Popasna region towards Bakhmut, Lysychansk and Zolote as well as expanded operations on the Izyum-Slovyansk highway. The most intense fighting should be in the Majaky regions and between Krasnopolye-Bogorodnichnoye, where there is a lot of forested region. Perhaps the Russians' idea might be to cross the river at Svyatohirsk and down to Sosnove, attacking those two cities from the rear, locking AFU troops in that region or forcing them to retreat to positions closer to Slovyansk. The rest is well explained within that post.

The last video is about an UR77, which has a similar role to the US Army's M1150, but used to destroy AFU positions inside buildings. I've never seen this concept before, usually this kind of equipment is used to clear a path through a minefield, interesting.

The Russians have greatly intensified the attacks in the regions of Kryvyv Rih, Mykolaiv and Odessa. These first two are largely due to the Ukrainian offensive, but the Russians are focusing on concentrating equipment, decision centers and logistical infrastructure. Perhaps it could indicate that the Ukrainians are trying to send equipment to recover the losses. There are sources - although difficult to certify reliability - that the Ukrainians would have lost about 300 vehicles, between MBTs, IFVs, APCs and civilian vehicles, which are being used a lot, as in the video in which a Russian troop ambushed another civilian vehicle being used by Ukrainian troops.

Zelensky published a video saying a few things, but one catches my attention:

"For us to go on the offensive—I expect that you know this very well—we would need no less than 10 times the [military] equipment, and no less than 10 times the people."

So why did this idiot approve of the offensives on Cobra Island, Kherson, Severodonetsk, Kharkiv, Izyum, Huliapole, and Avdiivka, with almost all of them failing catastrophically, except that of Kharkiv, which succeeded in regaining ground, though they took it in the loins when they arrived? in cities near the border, where the Russians decided to stop and counterattack?

By the way, I mentioned about the Soviet artillery doctrine and how much this is maintained in both countries - with the modernization of the concept by the Russians - I will put a study by the US Army on this concept of the USSR:

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