The War in the Ukraine

sheogorath

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VVS is dropping FABs whenever, wherever they want on the front lines. Sounds like air superiority to me.
A lot of it has to do with people mixing up Air Superiority with Air Supremacy and how it is a matter of shades and not outright on-and-off issue and don't realize that Desert Storm/OIF is an aberration and not the norm.

During the attack on Serbia, NATO achieved air superiority, but they still couldn't fully wipe out Serbian air defenses and aircraft, and that was a far smaller conflict.
 

caudaceus

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The report is a bit of mishmash. The Soviets did have CNC machines. But because the Soviets were almost a decade behind the West in terms of computer technology they only started mass manufacturing CNC tools in the 1980s after they mass produced the Elektronika-NC control module. The design tools and environment lagged quite a lot. You did CAD in the Soviet Union on minicomputers. PDP-11 compatibles.

The Soviets were way behind in regards to modern workstations in the late 1980s. They had no real mass production equivalent to a Sun workstation for example. So CAD software development lagged quite a lot. Another huge choke point was the lag in DRAM technology. The Soviets were still mostly making 64 Kbit DRAM chips at the point of collapse, and the most advanced Comecon DRAM chips from Eastern Germany were 256 Kbit. So even if a proper CPU existed you wouldn't have enough cheap memory to run graphical workstation applications on a mass produced machine.

When the collapse of the Soviet Union happened, the country massively switched to buying Western PC compatibles to bridge the gap in performance with regards to workstations and personal computers. The Western CAD software which ran on them was optimized to work with Western tools. The Soviet consumer goods industry collapsed as people started consuming imported consumer goods. And so a large chunk of Soviet industrial production vanished. Of what could be exported most of it was military gear which was still competitive in the world market, part of those funds were used to acquire Western tools and train experts to use them abroad.

The article seems to be like a decade behind the trends in both Russia and China though. Russia does have CAD/CAM software. They have KOMPAS-3D as a CAD software solution and there are CAM modules for it which can control CNC machines.
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The naval shipyards already use KOMPAS-3D. The naval design bureaus are moving to it. The Russian government has a program to move the entire aerospace sector to KOMPAS-3D as well. For example the PD-35 engine was already partially designed with KOMPAS-3D and the PD-8V is going to be fully designed with it.
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With the Western tool companies leaving the Russian market tool production has also been booming. There are Russian producers for most of the required equipment unlike what the article says. They just lack production capacity. Russia has several producers of computer controlled laser cutting tools and metal 3D printing tools. Kalashnikov produces 5-axis CNC machines. Sterlitamak Machine Tool Enterprise and others part of STAN produce CNC lathe and milling tools. The machine tool plant formerly owned by DMG Mori also is now under control of its Russian employees and has been developing a new lineup in collaboration with Chinese tools producers. Given their large sales network in Russia they will probably quickly expand their sales.
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As for the supposed "lack of quality" of Chinese CNC machines. Again these "analysts" are like a decade behind the times. You can tell this by how quickly Russia has been moving their machine tool imports from European to Far Eastern suppliers. With the majority of tools currently being bought from China. It is not surprising that a lot of existing facilities still use Western tools. Back when Chinese tools were not competitive. Russian tools still lacked variety and production volume. Well that isn't the case anymore.
Do you know similar CAD/CAM software from China ?
 

Tam

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Ukrainian field ammo depot in Staromayorsky gets hit by artillery.

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Two FABs with UMPK hit Ukrainian positions in Maximilyanovka.

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Two rocket attacks on plants and warehouses in Nikolaev.

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House used by Ukrainians as a refuge gets destroyed by a LMUR missile.

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Previously destroyed Krab photographed by Ukrainian soldiers. This makes it the 38th confirmed destroyed of the type.

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Iskander lands on tank plant in Nikolaev.

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A stuck and abandoned Ukrainian T-72M1 gets a drone bomb down the hatch.

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Russian FPV drones crashes into a Baba Yaga.

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This building in the Sumy region must have been used by the Ukrainian military as a barracks, storage place for weapons, ammo, and other supplies. Must have been destroyed either by Iskander or FAB strikes.

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TOS strike on Ukrainian positions in Zaporozhye.

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Pro Russian Ukrainian guerillas hit an AFU warehouse in the village of Usatovo in the Odessa region. Allegedly more than 50 UAVs were destroyed as well as foreign imported ammunition.

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Another home used as a shelter by Ukrainian military gets hit by a LMUR.

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North Korean 152mm shells being used with a Russian 2S3 Akasya.

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Atomicfrog

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What is the effect of recent Ukranian strikes on Russian refining capacity, there seems to have been strikes on facilities of up to combined 500k bbl/day of refining capacity.

The strikes are preformed by slowoving drones which are highly targeted, appears to be aiming for maximum damage such as distillation columns.

There's basically no air defence positioned at the sites other than small arms and locations are far to the rear.(8-900km from Ukranian border)

If they are able to deplete the reserve during repairs time it will have an effect. If the repairs can be done before other damage fast enough for the reserve to be refill, it will have little effects beside some sort if continuous strain, bad news and nuisance.
 

Atomicfrog

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Tam

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20 ? probably more Mi-8 than Mi-24. Some say Blackhawks other throw tantrum that Ukraine have none.


Still most likely Mi-8.

MoD already confirms it as Mi-8. Appears to be sending an airborne assault across the border. No survivors possible based on that photo.


Krasnopol hits a shelter being used by Ukrainian FPV drone operators. We are seeing more and more of this tactic being used. Malinovka village, Zaporozhye. Some say it's a LMUR. There is some overlap in the usage of these two weapons similar to Tornado S vs. Iskander.

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A shelter used by Ukrainian troops gets hit by FPV drones of the 200th Brigade in the Artemovosk front.

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Destroyed Ukrainian track Ural-4320 with a towed D-30 howitzer.

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BAT-2 mine clearer and engineering machine knocked out somewhere in the Sumy region.

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Lancet hits a Ukrainian navy boat. That's a change from the usual Lancet attacks. This is around Nikolaev so there's a bit of range involved.

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Take out by Tyulpan using a Smelchak laser guided projectile. Think Krasnopol, but instead of 152mm, think 240mm.

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Destroyed Ukrainian T-64BV.

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Ukrainian stronghold hit by ATGM followed by shelling from Grad in Krasnogorovka.

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Successful assault by two BMD-2 of the VDV somewhere in the Artemovosk front.

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Su-34 with four FAB-500M62 with UMPK aiming to deliver in South Donetsk.

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Destroyed various Western equipment in Novomikhailovka.

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Krasnopol hits a shelter used by troops of the AFU 53rd Brigade in the Avdeyevka direction.

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FABs arrive in Krasnogorovka.

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Rockets arrive on this military airfield in the Chernihiv region. Possibly a training center.

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Lancet takes out a Strela-10 of the AFU near Chasiv Yar.

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Precision strike, possibly Krasnopol, at a Ukrainian site in Huliaipilske, in Zaporozhye.

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Krasnopol strike at a Ukrainian target with Orlan-30 lasing it. By the 238th Brigade.

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Krasnopol strike on a 2S1 Gvozdika of the AFU in South Donetsk.

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Soldier30

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Footage of the Russian kamikaze drone Lancet-51 hitting an American-made Ukrainian Island-class patrol boat. The shooting was carried out in the Southern Bug in Nikolaev, 50 kilometers from the front line. The Island-class patrol boat was developed in 1985 and is used by the US Coast Guard; it is now being replaced by other boats. The patrol boat is armed with two 12.7 and 7.62 machine guns; a 25-mm 2M-3M anti-aircraft artillery mount was also installed in Ukraine. The boat is equipped with a radar and has a speed of up to 29 knots, with a crew of 16 people. As a result of the strike from the Lancet-51 drone, the boat did not receive any visible serious damage and continued to move.

 

Tam

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Ukrainian howitzer struck by counterbattery in the Sumy region.

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UAV from the 58th Brigade helps adjust the volley of the TOS system right into the Ukrainian defensive position in a forest area in the Artemovosk direction.

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Ukrainian EW station gets taken out by FPV drone in the Chernihiv region.

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A family of four were killed when Ukrainians shelled Nikolskoye in the Belgorod region.

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M777 gets taken out by Lancet from the 810rd Marines in the village of Stanislav in the right side of the Dniepr.

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Humvee gets hit by FPV drone in the Kurakhovsky direction.

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RM-70 MLRS gets taken out likely by allegedly an S-400 in surface to surface mode. This seems to me that the Russians continue to test their weapons simply because they can.

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Gerans struck in Lutz the 'Motor' plant that makes aircraft and jet engines. The attack is in the deep rear.

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Vikhr strike from a Mi-28NM on a Ukrainian vehicle.

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Ukrainians tried to attack Belgorod, Crimea and Voroznezh with drones. All were shot down, 10 on Belgorod alone.

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Missile and aviation based RBK strikes on Ukrainian positions in Bilohorivka.

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Two explosions in Sonotop, Sumy region where an aircraft factory is located.

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Ukrainian command post hit by FAB-500M62 with UMPK from an Su-34.

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Krab SPG gets taken out in counterbattery.

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Soviet vs Soviet counterbattery. Russian Hyacinth-B takes out Ukrainian MSTA-B.

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Krasnopol arrives on the command post of the AFU 53rd Brigade in Avdeyevka.

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I have seen other countries taking lessons from this conflict such as adding cope cages in tanks and now the PLA with their drone operators.

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