any attempt to predict the outcome is futile at this stage, just like the past "home by christmas" mantras. The big take away from the 2025 thing is that shoigu at least believes that he is given the green light to take his time. this is not surprising at all since there are some propitious factors on the horizon, such as north korean ammo coming in, ukraine's manpower issues, and trump potentially winning the next election.
The War in the Ukraine
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They have parroted it so much that lie has essentially became fact to them. Doesn’t matter if you tell them otherwise even with evidence because it is so deeply rooted in their belief to the point where it is utterly incomprehensible that it wasn’t the Russians who said it.
So latest Russian SAM and latest Russian fighter don't have IFF built in?
More details on the Stridsvagn-122 knockout. It appears that VT-40 drones were used and the crew abandoned the tank.
New tactics by the Russians. GRU DRG penetrated deep within Ukrainian lines and blew up a big oil facility with FPV drones. This at the Ivano-Frankvisk region. Huge fire and smoke.
Orthodox Ka-52 strikes again with a new vehicle kill.
LMUR strike at Ukrainian hideout.
Lancet attack on a Ukrainian SPG. After discussion whether it's a Krab or AS-90, the controllers said it's a Pzh-2000.
Tornado-S strikes a Ukrainian shelter and deployment point belonging to the AFU 72nd Brigade in South Donetsk.
Tornado-S strikes another Ukrainian logistical train caught in the act of unloading. Target is the AFU 34th Marine Brigade.
Here Maxxpro is struck in the mud, but Soviet era BRDM-2 passes. This from Ukrainian Go Pro.
Artillery from the 57th MR Brigade takes out AFU T-80BV and T-64BV.
Drone and missile attacks at night all over Kharkhiv, Sumy, Odessa and Zaporozhye.
Tanks and vehicles of the AFU 93rd Brigade getting Krasnopoled in the Kleeshevka area.
The 108th Kuban Cossacks VDV Regiment working in Zaporozhye. This seems additional Russian units to the area.
Big loss to the AFU because these are the most valuable of all people right now. Group of Ukrainian sappers were spotted during their work and hit with artillery.
Article from Reuters describes Cubans fighting in the side of Russia.
NYT article describes sharp shortage of drone components by Ukrainian drone makers after their Chinese suppliers cut them off after September 1 deadline.
New tactics by the Russians. GRU DRG penetrated deep within Ukrainian lines and blew up a big oil facility with FPV drones. This at the Ivano-Frankvisk region. Huge fire and smoke.
Orthodox Ka-52 strikes again with a new vehicle kill.
LMUR strike at Ukrainian hideout.
Lancet attack on a Ukrainian SPG. After discussion whether it's a Krab or AS-90, the controllers said it's a Pzh-2000.
Tornado-S strikes a Ukrainian shelter and deployment point belonging to the AFU 72nd Brigade in South Donetsk.
Tornado-S strikes another Ukrainian logistical train caught in the act of unloading. Target is the AFU 34th Marine Brigade.
Here Maxxpro is struck in the mud, but Soviet era BRDM-2 passes. This from Ukrainian Go Pro.
Artillery from the 57th MR Brigade takes out AFU T-80BV and T-64BV.
Drone and missile attacks at night all over Kharkhiv, Sumy, Odessa and Zaporozhye.
Tanks and vehicles of the AFU 93rd Brigade getting Krasnopoled in the Kleeshevka area.
The 108th Kuban Cossacks VDV Regiment working in Zaporozhye. This seems additional Russian units to the area.
Big loss to the AFU because these are the most valuable of all people right now. Group of Ukrainian sappers were spotted during their work and hit with artillery.
Article from Reuters describes Cubans fighting in the side of Russia.
NYT article describes sharp shortage of drone components by Ukrainian drone makers after their Chinese suppliers cut them off after September 1 deadline.
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The 2020 war between Armenia and Azerbaijan and now the Ukraine war both show that the future of ground warfare is in drones. It seems drone swarms of cheap but expendable drones is simply superior to bulkier, expensive systems. I think the real killer app will be to get rid of human pilots and just let AI do the target acquisition process. EW will also be crucial.
Tbh there's no shortage of pilots since you can easily train basic competence in UAV flying in a few days, you're much more likely to run out of drones than pilot so I never really understood the AI argument. Only caveat is if you're using them for light AA/UAV duty which requires high speed tracking.
NEBO-U radar hit by drone. Likely long range strike?
If Russia's huge "modern" air force had air superiority over Ukraine, at least the eastern/central part, we would not be talking about drones as much as we are in this conflict. Russia wouldn't need all these drones if they controlled Ukraine air space. Training Ukraine's army and giving them the armor the west has been giving them would be useless and likely would have never happened.
Not really. It only applies to nations with no air force or air superiority. You bring up Armenia and Azerbaijan if the current conflict got bigger involving Iran and Turkey going after each other, which is a very likely possibility, Iran's drone warfare it would try to unleash would not work against Turkey because of their huge modern air force. Turkey would control the skies of that region with their E-7T-AEW&C.
If Russia's huge "modern" air force had air superiority over Ukraine, at least the eastern/central part, we would not be talking about drones as much as we are in this conflict. Russia wouldn't need all these drones if they controlled Ukraine air space. Training Ukraine's army and giving them the armor the west has been giving them would be useless and likely would have never happened.
Hardly. You won't be stopping the equivalent of a DJI drone with a fighter.
The smaller drones like the DJI drones or even somewhat larger ones like the Orlan-10 aren't something you will take down with a fighter.
Fighters will also be useless against the Lancet drones.
The smaller drones like the DJI drones or even somewhat larger ones like the Orlan-10 aren't something you will take down with a fighter.
Fighters will also be useless against the Lancet drones.