The War in the Ukraine

Tam

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Drones spotting for Ukrainian hideouts and hitting them with artillery. Via the 108th VDV Regiment in the Rabotino-Verbove front.

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Lancet takes out M777 in the Kupyansk front.

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Lancet takes out MRAP.

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Lancet takes out another M777.

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AFU Akasya SPG gets taken out by Russian artillery.

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Two AFU Krab SPGs gets taken out by artillery.

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Glide FAB lands on Ukrainian positions in Ugledar. That's a tall building that's hit, which could be used as a barracks.

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AFU warehouse in the Maryinsky front taken out by artillery.

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Two AFU tanks hit by Ka-52.

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plawolf

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Interesting claim from the Russians. They took out a Leopard 2 tank crewed by Germans. One German survived the initial blast and begged the Russian soldiers not to shoot him. He identified himself as a Bundeswehr soldier shortly before passing away.

This isn't a twitter/telegram rumour, it's from an official Russian news agency. If true, a German tank operated by German soldiers attacking Russia is an act of war.

Sorry but this doesn’t pass the smell test.

If you were active Bundeswehr operating in Ukraine, and you get captured by the Russians, why would you ever admit it? Even if you were operating under direct orders, the Germany government would never admit it and would disavow you, so you would have only succeeded in outing yourself as a foreign mercenary instead of being a regular POW.

Unless the Russians have a new policy of shooting captured foreign mercenaries on the spot no one has bothered to mention until now, it makes no sense for anyone to make such an admission.
 

BoraTas

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Remember that the "red lines" are just a fiction of the Russian nationalists, if they put their heads in the ground like an ostrich with the destruction of their bases in the Russian territory of Crimea and the ports of Sebostopol with weapons, reconnaissance and guidance from NATO, they will disguise even more so regarding who the hell the crew of a tank in Ukraine is...

People keep saying Russia will escalate, but Russia has never shown the ability to retaliate to Ukrainian strikes beyond low bandwidth cruise missile strikes. What they are doing in Ukraine is indeed what they are capable of.
 

Abominable

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People keep saying Russia will escalate, but Russia has never shown the ability to retaliate to Ukrainian strikes beyond low bandwidth cruise missile strikes. What they are doing in Ukraine is indeed what they are capable of.
They can easily target decision making centres like the Ukrainian parliament or just take out power stations and critical infrastructure.
 

Lnk111229

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Difference is the US wasn't at war with Yemen or with Iran and Iraq. Both of those ships would have been in different state of alert if they were at war with these nations at that time. Just look at desert storm and the plethora of naval ships that were there.

Russia losing naval warships with the means to defend itself against the nation they are at war with that has no navy just reeks of incompetence.
Your excuse for two US ship is lame as heck. Those US ship in on duty far away of home port. Those two is a warship mean it job is attacking another and same time have their own duty to defend itself yet it not have attention to keep itself safe?! Then it just smell same reek as Russia. And why keep nagging about Ukraine don't have navy. Friends of Ukraine always first to tell the world Ukraine now have top weapons systems of world including anti ship weapons. To be honest which all those nearly alien levels weapons yet Kremlin it not destroyed and Putin not captured and jailed in Kiev is total mercy of Zelensky, huh?
 

Atomicfrog

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Why haven't they taken out power stations or infrastructure by now....
It's a bit strange, I think is more about greed than anything else.

If they still hope to capture ground without the scorched earth tactics, they want some of these infrastructures still standing. That hope probably stand on a sudden collapse of Ukraine military structure or some kind of internal coup that clearly not worked in the beginning.

At least if Ukraine exist after the war, they will have functional basic infrastructures, still, better than a waste land full of tugs. It's quite better for the civilians remaining there.
 

drowingfish

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It's a bit strange, I think is more about greed than anything else.

If they still hope to capture ground without the scorched earth tactics, they want some of these infrastructures still standing. That hope probably stand on a sudden collapse of Ukraine military structure or some kind of internal coup that clearly not worked in the beginning.

At least if Ukraine exist after the war, they will have functional basic infrastructures, still, better than a waste land full of tugs. It's quite better for the civilians remaining there.
still makes no sense, then why not just take out the power stations in the west, where russia has zero intentions of taking?
 
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Why haven't they taken out power stations or infrastructure by now....
It takes a lot more firepower to irreparably damage modern structures than people realize. Cement and steel are very resilient materials, especially when paired together. The real answer is that Ukraine is a fairly big country and the Russian mic is not capable producing the volume of munitions needed to really devastate its infrastructure conventionally.

They would be capable of this if Russia enjoyed the kind of uncontested air dominance they had over Georgia, and could just spam ultra cheap gravity bombs with impunity. But Russia does not have this, so they are stuck trying to destroy an entire country's infrastructure with expensive long range fires.
 
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Atomicfrog

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still makes no sense, then why not just take out the power stations in the west, where russia has zero intentions of taking?
On long term thinking, Having a functional neighbor is better than having a nonfunctional one that ask for even more war payment retributions.

Or maybe they have some dreaming intentions of taking.

Or they have their hands full already about destroying military asset that try to pass through their flanks than spending a lot of ammunitions on huge civilians infrastructures.
 
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