The War in the Ukraine

One account I read claims that Ukraine used a combination of a dozen S-200 repurposed into ballistic missiles (600km range) as decoys, plus US supplied ADM-160 MALD and a small number of SCALP missiles to strike the intended targets in Sevastopol. In addition to all of this, Ukraine allegedly flew SEAD aircraft armed with HARMs to take out several Russian radars that revealed their position while tracking the decoy missiles. And lastly, at the same time they used unmanned sea drones to sow further confusion and pressure on Russian defenses.

If true, it’s almost incredible that Ukraine was able to pull off this level of coordination.

Ukrainian armored vehicle moving fast at the forest line gets popped by Ka-52.


Destroyed Oshkosh M-ATV at Zaporozhye.


Ukrainian D-20 howitzer gets knocked out.


Two 155mm Polish Krabs SPGs both taken out by Krasnopol.



Krabs and Paladins observed firing at maximum distance from the frontline. However they are spotted by UAV and coordinates sent to Russian artillery for counterbattery. Courtesy of the Sudoplatov Battalion.


According to RUSI, Russian artillery has the best in class reaction time when working with counterbattery radar and spotter UAVs, with a reaction time of three minutes instead of 30. It should be noted that the travel time of a 155mm shell at 25km takes around 75 seconds, according to the authors. From the British Royal Institute of Joint Services.


According to Newsweek, Ukraine will start to sue Western defense companies for non deliveries and failure to deliver on time.


This M113 went down hard with a direct hit from artillery.


AFU mortar units takes hits from artillery.



AFU burning vehicles, Rabotino area.


Death road to Rabotino. The cemetery grows every day.


Osman special forces unit using FPV drones as they defend Verbove. We see more and more these BARS units playing a crucial role in the front lines especially with their UAV expertise.


Along the road to Rabotino-Verbove. Mastiff running down the road gets a direct hit.


Three Ukrainian tanks gets knocked out by Kornet ATGMs.

Zichan said:

One account I read claims that Ukraine used a combination of a dozen S-200 repurposed into ballistic missiles (600km range) as decoys, plus US supplied ADM-160 MALD and a small number of SCALP missiles to strike the intended targets in Sevastopol. In addition to all of this, Ukraine allegedly flew SEAD aircraft armed with HARMs to take out several Russian radars that revealed their position while tracking the decoy missiles. And lastly, at the same time they used unmanned sea drones to sow further confusion and pressure on Russian defenses.

If true, it’s almost incredible that Ukraine was able to pull off this level of coordination.

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If they have done all that to damage two old ships in repairs... it's a waste of ressources. Would have been way better to do all that to destroy a better and active target. That would be a a lot of stuff used on assets that are not influencing the course of the war.

Only thing that would make sense military would be the presence of nuclear tipped torpedo on tha kilo and the hope to set them up.

Atomicfrog said:

If they have done all that to damage two old ships in repairs... it's a waste of ressources. Would have been way better to do all that to destroy a better and active target. That would be a a lot of stuff used on assets that are not influencing the course of the war.

Only thing that would make sense military would be the presence of nuclear tipped torpedo on tha kilo and the hope to set them up.

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It is a joke that they downplay military importance to a clean attack against a real military strategic objective, something very Russian propaganda.

The missile attack not only destroyed two ships at a cost of millions of dollars, but also caused damage to a Russian military infrastructure, which is also the largest in Sevastopol, in addition to destroying important defense systems for the region.

If you don't understand objectives at an operational and strategic level, then settle for Tam's publications, which are only routine combat outlines, maximum at a tactical level.

Sheleah said:

It is a joke that they downplay military importance to a clean attack against a real military strategic objective, something very Russian propaganda.

The missile attack not only destroyed two ships at a cost of millions of dollars, but also caused damage to a Russian military infrastructure, which is also the largest in Sevastopol, in addition to destroying important defense systems for the region.

If you don't understand objectives at an operational and strategic level, then settle for Tam's publications, which are only routine combat outlines, maximum at a tactical level.

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Hyping the importance of destruction of something not involved in war while actively dismissing the active destruction of combat vehicles is either deliberate perfidiousness or outright mental retardation. Its like if in the middle of a car race I set fire to an old garage and somehow claim this will help me win the race because the gas i used to set the fire cost less than the garage, then claim that this was strategic and driving faster is only tactical.

SlothmanAllen said:

Yeah, it seems kind of weird to risk these ships in the open. I am guessing that moving them wasn't an option in this case?

Alternatively, there could just be a communication breakdown between various levels of government along with incompetence which is driving these mistakes.

The loss of these boats isn't crippling, but it does seem unnecessary.

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I think it allow Ukraine to add on their paper tally, billions of damage inflicted on Russia, at minimal losses. At the end of the day, it's propaganda win for Ukraine.

generalmeng said:

I think it allow Ukraine to add on their paper tally, billions of damage inflicted on Russia, at minimal losses. At the end of the day, it's propaganda win for Ukraine.

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Ukraine's minerals and fertile soil would help the debt it's a mini Siberia worth trillions, Still Russia's performance is laughable at best this was supposed to be one week to capture Kiev and one Month for whole of Ukraine, Now it's Vietnam 2.0

RedMetalSeadramon said:

Hyping the importance of destruction of something not involved in war while actively dismissing the active destruction of combat vehicles is either deliberate perfidiousness or outright mental retardation. Its like if in the middle of a car race I set fire to an old garage and somehow claim this will help me win the race because the gas i used to set the fire cost less than the garage, then claim that this was strategic and driving faster is only tactical.

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precisely, boasting videos of tank destruction, as a great achievement, and downplaying a strategic objective, is wasting neurons

If you want to talk about lost tanks, then you have to say, then I would have to waste 3000 pages of the forum, bringing videos of destroyed Russian tanks.... everyone who knows what a war is, can understand that equipment is lost, the Fights and battles will always occur... you must review your level of judgment, when you prefer to talk about tactical level operations, and put operations at an operational or strategic level under the rug

Ukraine has been really busy hitting the Russian navy. Now reports that attacks on two Russian ships at sea were damaged

Also day after the attack on Sevastopol they attacked and s-400 battery in Crimea.

Since August 23rd this is what Ukraine has been targeting

Atomicfrog said:

If they have done all that to damage two old ships in repairs... it's a waste of ressources. Would have been way better to do all that to destroy a better and active target. That would be a a lot of stuff used on assets that are not influencing the course of the war.

Only thing that would make sense military would be the presence of nuclear tipped torpedo on tha kilo and the hope to set them up.

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The damaged submarine appears to be the Improved Kilo class Rostov on Don, launched in 2014. Definitely not an old vessel.