The War in the Ukraine

defenceman

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I totally agree, but - quite understandable - this is something Ukraine will never accept.
Hi
my thought is at the end of the war, whenever it will be it will
be something like on the lines of North & South Korea demilitarise
zone & eventually south side will be annexed in NATO or army of
NATO countries will be stationed there
just a thought
thank you
 

GodRektsNoobs

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Seems like Germany's worst fears came through, the Leopard 2's reputation is tarnished (even though it has more to do with failure in tactics than the tank itself)
Leopard 2's performance has been consistently underwhelming everytime it has been used in combat. It's an overhyped weapon, plain and simple. Everytime Leopard 2 has seen combat it was crewed by NATO members or crew that has actual combat experience AND trained by NATO. Stop blaming the crew and tactics. We have already seen from competitions and actual combat that Ukrainian tankers should be considered satisfactory at the very least. Put German crews in the same situation and we will most likely see far worse disaster than what we have here already. Perhaps if we evaluate it on the same level of T-80BV(M) and T-72B(3) we will get a more balanced understanding of its actual performance. Having more realistic expectation is key.
 
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Tam

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Russian artillery blasting away at Ukrainian vehicles in Seversk.


Ukrainian command post at Krasny Liman becomes the target of a Lancet drone.


This is the situation happening what was described before. What happens if if your allies' vehicle gets hit right next to you? Do you stop and help rescue your comrades? Or just run away with your life as quickly as possible. Two Humvees are in dire straights and the surviving Humvee answers that question.


This from the POV of a Bradley under fire and immobilized. Bradleys ahead has already been either knocked out or immobilized.

 
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Atomicfrog

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Seems this Bradley tossed its turret

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Nato tanks and soviet ones are acting the same way... it's not surprising. Would have been way better for Ukraine and Europe to settle things with Minsk 2. What a mess.

Don't know if we will see movements during this summer on the front and on peacetalks. No side want to put water in their wine at all.
 

Deino

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