The War in the Ukraine

Tam

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Russian news on Zaluzhny's condition, claiming to have an Ukrainian military source:

I thought Zaluzhny was 'silenced' for his opposition in the stay and hold situation in Bakhmut. I guess he truly was hurt from the missile strike which does suggest these strikes have underlying and profound latent damage to the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
 

Right_People

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Apparently the Belgorod crossing pic staged and Russia got some Humvees from Iran that were captured from ISIS or something.

Wtf is wrong with these people?

Is it even possible to miniaturized Thermobaric munitions that small?
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The Russians even have a thermobaric grenade launcher, its distribution is wide, there are many videos of Russian soldiers launching these just before storming trenches, the explosion is big for something that small.

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In the range:
 

Tam

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There's this hot off the press.
In the same interview he also gave casualty figures for Wagner:

Equipment wise a whole bunch of CV-90s are moving through Germany towards Ukraine:

Like things are happening, I'm surprised there isn't more Bakhmut mopping up talk but rather people jumped straight to the next flashpoint.

He also gives Ukrainian casualties, which is like over 50,000 killed and 75,000 wounded, with a 3.2 kill ratio in favor of Wagner. I take all figures with a pinch of salt.

If you want to know more, happening in the Artemevosk front,

 

Tam

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Is it even possible to miniaturized Thermobaric munitions that small?

There's a Lancet variant that's alleged to use a thermobaric warhead, and the way some explosions happen in videos which is disproportionate of what to expect from a 3kg warhead, that this variant is already being used and for some time now.

There's also a variant of the Kornet ATGM that also has a thermobaric warhead, and I suspect that some videos of the Kornet being used against Ukrainian troop groupings have used this variant, because of the huge explosion produced that I didn't expect of an ATGM. I suspect the use of this version to be more prevalent, and it comes from seeing so many videos where Russian ATGMs are used in so many non tank and non vehicular targets.
 
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gelgoog

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The Russians put thermobaric warheads into basically everything they can. From infantry weapons like the RPG-7, or Shmel, to ATGMs like the Kornet, rocket artillery, airplane dropped bombs, etc. The thing with fuel air explosives is that you basically get twice the explosive power with the same weight. So why not have them.
 

SolarWarden

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Hmm I don't know about this claim. Maybe it's the way the slow motion makes the missile look but the missile that hit the Mi-8 looked small or at least much smaller than a PAC2

How does the "Russian affiliate" even know? If this is true that would mean a PAC 2 launcher carrying 4 missiles was able to be deployed much further distance from the radar than the publicized 10-15 kms.
 

gelgoog

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The Russians only confirmed the loss of a single Mi-8 and Su-34. Not two Mi-8s, a Su-34, and a Su-35.

I personally consider it was more likely that it was a system like NASAMS. The Patriot just isn't mobile enough to be there and the damage inflicted on the aircraft is not nearly large enough.
 

Abominable

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Analysis of the effects of Russian thermobaric weapons in Ukraine, with a documented case of a soldier suffering burns over 80% of their body despite being 60m away from the blast

I found that publication.
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It's a real eye opener.

Here are a few excerpts:
....could survive if concomitant injuries to extremities and the rest of the body were limited (23). In Ukraine, Russia’s weapons have led to more devastating injuries to a larger number of soldiers in any given attack. In a retrospective analysis of 100 patients treated by Ukrainian military surgeons operating within 5 kilometers of the front line, the average Injury Severity Scores exceeded 36 in victims of such barrage artillery and rocket attacks.

. Statistics shared by Ukrainian physicians demonstrate that over 70% of all Ukrainian combat casualties are due to artillery and rocket barrages from Russian forces, which has resulted in significant polytrauma to multiple organ systems.

It's basically confirming what a lot of what the pro-Russian crowd are saying for some time. Because of the overwhelming artillery disparity Ukrainian soldiers are getting serious life threatening injuries. While Russian soldiers are getting minor injuries which can be treated quickly.

They're saying things the western media aren't allowed to say, I bet it gets retracted soon.
 
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