The War in the Ukraine

Right_People

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As for the yolo into Belgorod, all that matters is how long it takes the Russian military to expel them. That will be the benchmark for how things are going in a big way.
I don't think so, unlike the defence of areas inside Ukraine the area was almost not protected.
Besides, it seems that the Ukrainian forces have taken hostages in the village, the situation is quite different.
 

SolarWarden

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This picture cropped up in a few places. Any info of where it might have been taken? A training ground perhaps? Or...an opsec leak?

As for the yolo into Belgorod, all that matters is how long it takes the Russian military to expel them. That will be the benchmark for how things are going in a big way.

And, why are you guys going on about the Su-57 here. There's a separate thread for that. smh.
This was a Ukraine training exercise about a month ago.
 

Tam

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Another S-300 system taken down by Lancet.


Then the second one continued from the top video, gets smacked by a Lancet.


Ukrainian DRG units got spotted by night vision, then hit by tank fire. Ukrainian ammo depot in the Lugansk got hit, possibly by Krasnopol round from artillery.



Dniepr airfield, hanger and assets becomes focus of a cruise missile attack.

 

Phead128

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Moved a ton of Su-57 discussion to relevant thread. Please continue technical aspects of Su-57 here to avoid cluttering thread of important offensive updates.

 

sheogorath

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As for the yolo into Belgorod, all that matters is how long it takes the Russian military to expel them. That will be the benchmark for how things are going in a big way.

Is it?. At this point the goal of it seemed to pull Bakhmut out of the news cycle in the west, which it has achieved, other than that, the employed force isn't suitable for anything more than what they have achieved and is more of a PR embarassment for the Russia unless these "Russians" start executing people in the street like they did in the previous raid.
 
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Right_People

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So have the Russian regained control of the areas the AFU entered in Belgorod? Or is it still not finished?
No reliable info

Edit:
Okey, russian MoD say everything clear and they made public videos of strikes on the invasion force:

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That is some KIAs for sure ...
All for a photo ...
 
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gelgoog

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Any serious military would be making major adjustments from observation right now, but I get a feeling that almost nobody is.

In the face of revelations, the most common response of militaries is to cope and do the bare minimum due to institutional inertia. Russia lacks the capability to produce PGM enmasse and tries to cope with dumb bombs and bombsights, we are seeing the anemic effect of its close air support today. This is why exercises of PLA planes firing rocket pods pisses me off, who tf are those idiots trying to impress?
It is true that there was a lack of investment of small PGMs in Russia before the conflict in Ukraine started.

Most of the funding was put into strategic or theater level precision weapons like cruise missiles. The Russians created the Zircon, Kinzhal, modernized older missiles like Kh-22, Kh-55, Oniks, mass produced the Kalibr, Kh-101 cruise missiles. They also put into service several Iskander brigades and are pretty close to having replaced all older systems. Outside of strategic and theater weapons they also put the Krasnopol laser guided artillery round into mass production. The Russians had to substitute production of the laser guidance package in the Soviet era Krasnopol which prior to 2014 was made in Ukraine.

What isn't true is that this situation did not change after the conflict started. Less than a year after the conflict started, the Russians put into use the glide kits effectively turning the dumb bombs into PGMs. The Lancet was put into mass production, Geran-2 is also widely available. They started using the LMUR. Usage of LMUR is still limited due to lack of compatible launch platforms since it is operator guided in flight and needs a control console. What is still mostly a no show is serial production of the Kh-59MK2, Kh-38, and Kh-36 Grom-E1/E2. In at least the case of the Kh-38 the missile had to be redesigned so it would fit inside the stealth weapons bays of the Su-57 while still keeping the cost down. Other programs might have had similar delays.
 
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Right_People

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It is true that there was a lack of investment of small PGMs in Russia before the conflict in Ukraine started.

Most of the funding was put into strategic or theater level precision weapons like cruise missiles. The Russians created the Zircon, Kinzhal, modernized older missiles like Kh-22, Kh-55, Oniks, mass produced the Kalibr, Kh-101 cruise missiles. They also put into service several Iskander brigades and are pretty close to having replaced all older systems. Outside of strategic and theater weapons they also put the Krasnopol laser guided artillery round into mass production. The Russians had to substitute production of the laser guidance package in the Soviet era Krasnopol which prior to 2014 was made in Ukraine.

What isn't true is that this situation did not change after the conflict started. Less than a year after the conflict started, the Russians put into use the glide kits effectively turning the dumb bombs into PGMs. The Lancet was put into mass production, Geran-2 is also widely available. They started using the LMUR. Usage of LMUR is still limited due to lack of compatible launch platforms since it is operator guided in flight and needs a control console. What is still mostly a no show is serial production of the Kh-59MK2, Kh-38, and Kh-36 Grom-E1/E2. In at least the case of the Kh-38 the missile had to be redesigned so it would fit inside the stealth weapons bays of the Su-57 while still keeping the cost down. Other programs might have had similar delays.
Remnants of the Grom were found a few months ago and photos appeared, I assume that since then some of these attacks have been carried out by Groms, for example all these attacks on the Slaviansk-Kramatorsk line are too far away to be FABs with UMPC kits and too vlose to be other missiles like the Kh-22 or such.
 
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