The War in the Ukraine

supersnoop

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Guancha had a great livecast today with Shilao, Ayi, Xi Yazhou and their resident Russian expert on the war, with a lot of details on the level of informatization within Russian forces. Other than that they had a very long discussion on casualty and destruction of technical equipment on both sides.

The one conclusion they came to is the idea of a "breaking point" for Ukraine. That is the war will continue on to be a very slow slogfest that we're seeing now, until suddenly you find Ukrainian defense just collapsing and you will start seeing Russians start to worry about where to keep all the PoWs they're getting and advancing at rapid rate. You will also see all Ukrainian counterattack end at this point.

Ukraine is losing well trained highly motivated troops at the rate of 3 digit a day, and similar rate in equipment. Manpower loss are being replaced by less well trained and lower morale territorial defense troops and even with NATO giving them supplies, they are having trouble replacing all the gears they are losing. In particular they point to these photos in recent days as evidence:
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This BMP-2K with very unusual camo, captured and put back into use by Chechen troops belonged to the military department of Chernivtsi University (western Ukraine) and was used for study purposes. You can imagine the state of Ukrainian equipment if they're pressing vehicles like this to the front line.

As the quality of men and equipment decrease due to attrition the standard of replacement will keep on falling, and as they fall their combat effectiveness also falls which will lead onto even greater loses, so on and so forth into an acceleration feedback loop. And along with the losses the morale will also fall creating discipline problems. We are already starting to see front line units refusing to fight. As long as Russia keeps the PoW option open by treating prisoners well as they did with those from Azovstal that option becomes more and more tempting, until the breaking point is reached and Ukrainian defense start to collapse in earnest.

NATO may try to keep Ukraine in the fight by providing equipment of ever greater quality. If the chips are down and NATO decide to go all in and start shipping MBTs and that sort of heavy equipment then Ayi argues there's suddenly great value in keeping Russians in the fight in face of this onslaught, as every missile that falls onto them will mean one less missile on top of PLA when the moment of reunification finally comes. Thus should this happens who knows what crazy weapon will suddenly appear in Russian hands.
You cannot simply pour in the best equipment and expect the best results. What was the result for the Iraqi army in the face of ISIS? They just abandoned M1 Tanks! Insane! Even if these are the export versions, they are still MBTs!
Even worse was these people had been training for years as well.
Similarly, PKK was able to take out many Leo2s of the Turkish Army.

Now, I think a lot of credit must be given to the Ukrainian Army compared to 2014. They are no Iraqi Army. However, as mentioned, the quality of troops will decline if you keep pouring them into the front. Just like the Russians have done, they can withdraw to the areas where they are stronger, but trading land and already been ongoing since 2014. Soon it will be 10 years of the country being fractionated. Just a tough situation for them...
 

Atomicfrog

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Another brigade complaining about being sent to their deaths:

There's one of these being sent out everyday. Keeping the fighting in the east has been the correct strategy.
At this rate, stopping the bloodshed is the best things for the civilians. Pride and honor cannot save their kids from getting killed. Ukraine put a damn of a good fight but in the end, continuing is just destroying their home, food and future.
 

gelgoog

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Russian Railway Troops busy at work.
 

pmc

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The one thing that I still don't understand is why the Russian Air Force isn't using more PGM's. They have laser and satellite guided bombs in the KAB series. The SU-30's, SU-34's and SU-35's are capable launching these weapons. So why haven't they ? Is it really about the lack of stockpiles ? These weapons have been available for export for decades and they couldn't build up their own stockpile's in all this time and all these years.
i guess you are not following keenly Ruaf . even in Syria Su-34 very lightly loaded of few bombs per mission.
It is not role of Flanker to strike mobile targets with PGMs. they are used lightly for one or two Kh-31 per sortie or in air defense.
but
 

FriedButter

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Russia's capture of the Severodonetsk region would see the whole of Luhansk Oblast placed under Russian occupation, the Ministry of Defence has warned.

"Russia has increased the intensity of its operations in the Donbas as it seeks to encircle Severodonetsk, Lyschansk, and Rubizhne," the MoD said in a statement on Twitter.
 

taxiya

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Is this real? Geez….

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I went through the person's full blog list. He seemed beginning to post only from May 19th 2022. Only 5 days before.

None of his posts would indicate him being a person that would join the army to fight any kind of war, let alone a war that he did NOT approve from the beginning.

He sounds like a person with the mind of typical western "liberal", Russian ethnity or not.

I call it a BS.
 
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