The War in the Ukraine

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Rybar is reporting a successful Russian preemptive bombardment:
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Frustrated offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the Polozhsko-Orekhovsky direction

On March 23-24, in the Zaporozhye direction, the command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine planned to launch a counteroffensive. According to the enemy's plan, the main blow was to fall on the Orekhovsky sector : a strike force was created in the city up to a reinforced battalion tactical group.

According to ZSU_Hunter_2_0 , the command of the 58th Combined Arms Army of the RF Armed Forces decided to inflict massive fire damage on exposed enemy positions and warehouses. The offensive was thwarted before it even started.

From 21.00 to midnight on March 22, hotels and schools were hit in the city, which were used to accommodate personnel of both the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the recently formed assault brigade of the National Guard of Ukraine "Chervona Kalina" - in total , more than 20 targets were covered.

Several warehouses with ammunition, artillery shells, ATGMs, and equipment parking were put out of action.

Estimated losses of the enemy reach half a thousand people killed and wounded. The Internet was turned off in the city to prevent information leaks. The wounded are taken out through Zaliznichnoe towards Gulyaipole.
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Supposedly Ukrainian have deliberately cut off internet to the town to prevent word of this from spreading.
 
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Tam said:
This comes after reports that Ukrainian concentrations and positions in the Avdiivka coke plant were heavily bombed by air.

Wonder what happened to Ukrainian air defense of late?
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Avdeevka's air defense has been all screwed for some time now, VKS has been dropping a lot of bombs there lately.
More important question is how is it Russians were able to detect this concentration before they could start the counterattack? Has there been improvements in Russian ISR.
 
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Tam said:
This comes after reports that Ukrainian concentrations and positions in the Avdiivka coke plant were heavily bombed by air.

Wonder what happened to Ukrainian air defense of late?
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We have seen some pictures of glide bombs in the past month, maybe they have enough ammo now to do something useful with them. Avdeeka was open bar lately for airstrikes. We have some video talking about Ukraine forces manpads stockpiles dwingling, they are using them against drones.
 
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Tam said:
This comes after reports that Ukrainian concentrations and positions in the Avdiivka coke plant were heavily bombed by air.

Wonder what happened to Ukrainian air defense of late?
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what air defens doin?

Of course the reality is, that air defense is a complex mission and Ukrainian forces are being steadily attrited. How steady Western replenishment is… is an unknown quantity ultimately.
 
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HighGround said:
That's not going to make any real difference if they're up against an ATGM or any MBT that fires modern/semi-modern projectiles. Nor is the firepower difference between a T-54 or T-62 going to make a serious difference in how these platforms are employed.

The biggest issue with the T-54 vs T-62, is that they require different ammunition, which complicates logistics.



Sure, but these differences no longer matter. It's 2023 and for all intents and purposes, these two tanks are going to have similar combat value.
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I think it's not about having different ammunition but the fact that this ammunition already exists --- tons in spades. Why not just use them, especially the HE. The tank can be used for indirect artillery fire, and to reply to another post, no it won't be as good as a 122mm, 152mm, 155mm or 203mm piece, but it's much better than a zero piece.

Plenty of old weapons are already being used, and turning out to still be useful like Akasyas, Gvozdika, D-20 and D-30. Even S-20 AA guns.
 
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tankphobia said:
Those bombs aren't dropped for free however, this month the VKS lost a Su-34 and a Su-24 from Ukranian ground fire, that's more than they have lost in a short period for a while.
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Not in the Avdiivka sector no and the use of these bombs are dropped from a height beyond MANPADS range.
 
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Zichan said:
It appears that the advance in Bakhmut has ground down. Pro Ukrainian sources are reporting catastrophic losses among Wagnerites. ISW reports a noticeable slowdown in their advance there.

I need to listen to the latest update from M. Koffman.
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I follow the mappers which use many Ukrainian and neutral sources, and they haven't bogged down the slightest. But I will tell you that Wagnerians are not allowed to disclose their position in social media so every fighting location report has to come from the Ukrainian side. The latest I heard is that the industrial area are nearly in Wagner's hands which is remarkable for the time it took versus what it took with Azovstal in Mariupol. However confirmation is required. Wagnerians are not allowed to disclose what is captured or their positions and only Prigozhyn is only allowed to officially announce it (in a way this makes him look politically good too.)
 
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