Not that much. Some source says about 10k-15k. 5-6 brigades, 2-3k each. Many Ukraine formations ran out of manpower and had to withdraw and regroup behind the line, out of the city. Those who remain on the battlefield are nearly 99% conscripts.
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The War in the Ukraine
- Thread starter SampanViking
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So Bakhmut is strategic...
In the thread there is a fairly interesting point that maybe the Ukranian leadership isn't confident about their defensive lines west of Bakhmut, which could mean once the city falls, the Russians could steamroll all the way to Slovyansk or Kramatorsk
In the thread there is a fairly interesting point that maybe the Ukranian leadership isn't confident about their defensive lines west of Bakhmut, which could mean once the city falls, the Russians could steamroll all the way to Slovyansk or Kramatorsk
Kharkov will have to be abandoned if the Donbas is lost and undermined from the south. After Kramatorsk it’s open country to the Dnieper river where the Ukrainian army could at any point become trapped and pressed against it with a well timed missile strike on the bridges across.
Map updates. The pincer continues to close, with Wagner as close as 1km to the northern highway and 500 meters to the southern entrance. A reported Ukrainian counteroffensive went full Steiner. Wagner now has the high ground north of Bakhmut that gives them a significant advantage for spotting and artillery.
Last offers four possibilities for the Russians and three countermove options for the Ukrainians.
Last offers four possibilities for the Russians and three countermove options for the Ukrainians.
Ukrainian forces are still sending conscripts everywhere on the front to patch holes and don't give ground easily. I could see Siversk fall in a couple of month after Bakhmut but not a lot more. That front is static.Kharkov will have to be abandoned if the Donbas is lost and undermined from the south. After Kramatorsk it’s open country to the Dnieper river where the Ukrainian army could at any point become trapped and pressed against it with a well timed missile strike on the bridges across.
On the Dnieper side, big cities remains along the river like Zaporizhzhia and Dnipro. Dnipro is probably the worst to take with rivers bording two sides.
The Wagner will be quite softed after Bakhmut and the Russian army look like lemmings in Vuhledar. If they don't have demining vehicules sorted out I cannot see them opening another front or advancing rapidly anywhere. And more they give time to Ukrainian forces the more they will be stuck in minefields stretching to horizon.
Ukrainian forces are still sending conscripts everywhere on the front to patch holes and don't give ground easily. I could see Siversk fall in a couple of month after Bakhmut but not a lot more. That front is static.
On the Dnieper side, big cities remains along the river like Zaporizhzhia and Dnipro. Dnipro is probably the worst to take with rivers bording two sides.
The Wagner will be quite softed after Bakhmut and the Russian army look like lemmings in Vuhledar. If they don't have demining vehicules sorted out I cannot see them opening another front or advancing rapidly anywhere. And more they give time to Ukrainian forces the more they will be stuck in minefields stretching to horizon.
I’m not a believer that Russian should be in a hurry to end this war, time is on their side and they outproduce NATO is everything necessary for ground war; munitions, tanks, missiles, vehicles. Supply lines are short and compact in the east for Russia and stretched out for Ukraine. The slow grinding approach and unequal loss ratios between Russia and Ukraine will eventually throw the Ukrainians across the Dnieper river where a defensive line can easily be established and the conflict frozen.
With the attitude of Ukraine government I don't see Ukrainian forces retreating if they are not broken.I’m not a believer that Russian should be in a hurry to end this war, time is on their side and they outproduce NATO is everything necessary for ground war; munitions, tanks, missiles, vehicles. Supply lines are short and compact in the east for Russia and stretched out for Ukraine. The slow grinding approach and unequal loss ratios between Russia and Ukraine will eventually throw the Ukrainians across the Dnieper river where a defensive line can easily be established and the conflict frozen.
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This time it's Zala's KUB suicide drone that takes out a Ukrainian ammo truck in Ugledar.
Ukrainian APC gets hit by an ATGM in Bakhmut.
Somewhere in Ugledar front, obtf Kaskad takes out a Ukrainian radar, likely a counter battery one.
ATGM sent to Ukrainian positions.
Zaporozhye front, drone assist (Orion?) on artillery takes out a Ukrainian ammo depot.
Ukrainian APC gets hit by an ATGM in Bakhmut.
Somewhere in Ugledar front, obtf Kaskad takes out a Ukrainian radar, likely a counter battery one.
ATGM sent to Ukrainian positions.
Zaporozhye front, drone assist (Orion?) on artillery takes out a Ukrainian ammo depot.
i guess this week is the last week in which Ukraine is able to pull people out of bakhmut, it is unthinkable they are actually sending troops there still, unless they are only there to counter the two russian pincers.
One of Ukranian officer claims they are holding Bakhmut because they are actually winning and bleeding out the Russians and the reserves will come in any time out and help drive them back