Won't be surprised if Putin's top advisors are mostly NATO assets
The War in the Ukraine
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He he, by his actions, Putin himself is NATOs top asset- along with all their ministers, generals, colonels, majors...
As Pavel Milyukov once asked in Duma: "Treason or incompetence?!"
I mean, just look at recent putting of Gerasimov responsible for operation? The very same man who is the most responsible for all failures so far- is given additional responsability? To mess it even further? Instead of being removed, together with Shoigu and the rest of "top" Russian generals.
But yes, they could ( and pretty convincingly ) say: "We have just fulfilled orders from VVP."
So, in my country- there's a saying: "The fish stinks from the head." And we all know who is the head of Russia.
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I don't know why this 3:1 thing got so popular. I don't even know where it's from. I've a few friends from the US Army and Marine Corps, that's not how they determine when and where to attack.
This was interesting to read, but any figures should really be in rubles. The people making these missiles get paid in rubles and don't renegotiate their salary or material costs every time there's a slight swing in foreign exchange rate markets.
Who are the guys hanging out in Belarus if they all went to patch holes in the other undermanned fronts? There is a considerable force that's been lingering there since the early days of the conflict and the equipment and manpower there has only increased over the last months leading in December.
Also, HIMARS at the onset of their arrival were extremely effective at taking out important targets before the Russian air defence was adapted to be able to discern between himars rockets and the other unguided rockets launched to saturate air defences.
The launchers are still there, we havent seen a single one destroyed that i know of, they're only receiving more and more rockets for them, yet we hear almost nothing about himars strikes behind the front now compared to the daily ammo and fuel depots, and barracks being destroyed earlier. This initial effectiveness was coincidentally around the time Russia was ceding territory almost daily.
This superhuman NATO training clearly isn't anything to call home about, if untrained zero morale Soviet conscripts have been able to trade meat at a 1:10 ratio according to our vaunted western "intelligence" agencies.
In conclusion, I think hyping western weapons deliveries as something we should expect to reverse the course of the war, is not worth the effort. It may, or may not, probably not, result in a temporwry shift in the front, but overall even 500 tanks will just be ground down like the previous thousands of tanks that were available and sold on loans to Ukraine.
When they say 10000 Abrams, f22s, f35s, B2s, and 300,000 army and marines are being sent to Ukraine, then on that might be a game changer. But the game is going to change to where you better have some good sunblock if you live in any major western city or tiny vassal state.
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Western aid is a pre-condition for any Ukrainian victory, but it does not guarantee it.
You cannot fight with rocks against armor vehicles anyway... yeah they need the gifts for sure.
If you look at the standard issue survival booklet for the Russian military, they describe this as a continue of the great patriotic war. To the Russians, this is a war of survival. Defeat means the destabilization of the whole Russian state, and society.
Russia won't be the first to yield. As we have witness during WW2, they are willing to suffer greatly, for many years, to drag that combat on, until their final victory.
This book is rather good read. There is a youtube video about this booklet.
Russian manual titled "I live, I fight, I win! The Rules of Living in War" (Живу, сражаюсь, побеждаю! Правила жизни на войне)
There is difference between public announcements and when orders given. did you saw the link i posted about Klimov engines. They got orders in Summer of 2022 to hike production 43%.
The point is first few months or evens years is time to learn which weopon works and which weopon not work. than orders are given to factories, weopons are tested and after weopon flow is established than order of mobilization in secret given to those who are likely ideologically predisposed to it. and than much later they go with public mobilization. You can also see Tu-160 now rarely used and also P800 become less. these weopons are getting upgrades. Its long process for right weopon mix and training.
The Soviets expected to be unable to achieve air superiority, and instead they focused on asymmetrical local aerial denial, the same as they planned for naval warfare instead of trying to compete 1 for 1 with NATO. Area denial, with SSMs, SAMs, mobile platforms, advanced missiles, etc.
It will be as exciting as its going to be to see western tanks go up against what they were built for, the same as possible F16s or any other 4th even 5th Gen fighters, if the neolibs are feeling that desperate.
Ehm, what about HIMARS, ATGMs, M777, recruiting mercenaries from nato countries, Soviet stockpile weapons deliveries, real time NATO ISR, helping plan terrorist attacks, i think this is only the 7th step by now and where are we?