Blackstone
Brigadier
That's debatable. Even if China hasn't sold high-altitude weapons to Russia, and there's no evidence she has, it doesn't preclude her from selling them to Russia in the future.
The Sino-Russian Strategic Partnership starts to get serious!
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That's debatable. Even if China hasn't sold high-altitude weapons to Russia, and there's no evidence she has, it doesn't preclude her from selling them to Russia in the future.
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Blackstone
Brigadier
Marriages of convenience are seldom stable over time, and Sino-Russo partnership wouldn’t be the exception that proves the rule. I say that because the centrifugal forces pushing the national interests of the pair apart are greater than centripetal forces holding them together. Russian population, by all accounts, is on a downward trajectory, especially in the RFE (Russia Far East). Combine that with huge and increasing disparity in economic output, which fuels military capability, one could reasonably say Moscow’s anxiety of being Beijing’s satellite would erode political/economic convenience over time. In the long-run, I see relations between the two less positive and more zero-sum.
MagnumCromagnon
New Member
Yes, Yes...we already heard this tired story before...China is the Yellow Peril of this era blah blah blah...and it's the white mans burden of the U.S. to look out for Russia best interests...because we all know with the U.S. pointing thousands of nukes in Russia's direction, that it's soooooo obvious that their fighting for Russia's best interests against the evil Yellow Peril that's aggresively (grrrrrrrrrrr aggression) investing over half a trillion Dollars in to Russia's economy through peaceful methods...*wink wink*
over time we will see china's strength increase over Russia and their respective gap will continue to increase with time but it is very important to respect Russia's role in the neighbourhood and accommodate their sphere of influence. I think Chinese leaders are wise enough to know this and be very willing to let Russia in on most of china's political initiatives and important economic projects across this vast region. like the Chinese saying "one person cannot earn all the money in the world, so why not collaborate and partnership with others''. I agree that agriculture is one important area both sides can cooperate. if the Russians are willing, they could set up huge modern farm enterprises with the best agricultural technologies from Russia/china and the world, all across the fertile areas of the Russian far east. the output can supply both Russia and china. there are so many areas where Russia and china could collaborate with mutual benefit. this ridiculous sanctions war between the west and Russia could be a catalyst for both Russia and china to explore new ways to work together.
Blackstone
Brigadier
There are two extremely corrosive elements of Sino-Russo relations: Russian fear of being the junior partner to China, and Chinese resentment of current and past Russian racism. The leaders, ministers, academia, and officials of both sides could utter googles of pleasantries and assurances, but it could still take generations to resolve the emotion-based problems, if that's even possible.
Equation
Lieutenant General
You can replace "Russia" with the "US" on that sentence as well. Still China and the US economic trades hasn't been hurt. Who is to say China and Russia increasing trades can't benefit from each other as well?
Blackstone
Brigadier
Because the US isn't physically located next China, while holding vast tracks of empty land that used to belong to China. You could say governments of China and Russia settled their borders and the issue is resolved (true statement), however, what about the future? Russia surely isn't blind to the fact large segments of the Chinese population still harbor resentments on unfair treatment and unequal treaties, and signatures on pieces of paper are no guarantee on future intentions and actions. As I said in my earlier post, the centrifugal forces fracturing China-Russia relations exceed centripetal forces keeping them together, and I stand by that.
Equation
Lieutenant General
But Russia right now is far more concern about the centrifugal forces in the Ukraine crisis than it is about China. Right they need China for trades and geopolitical allies. The more the west continues to outcast Russia the longer the China-Russian relations will thrive. You can't have a future if you don't take care of the present.
The US may not be located next to China, but the elite rulers and some in the population (not all) don't aspire to see a growing and more powerful China that will change status quo that's for sure.
We saw similarly strong, perhaps even stronger, emotion-based problems between Germany and France not a lifetime ago.