The Q-5, J-7, J-8 and older PLAAF aircraft
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Anything that starts with a F instead of J is for export. Anything displayed as an advertisement is basically trying to find customers. Unfortunately for SAC, I don't think anyone can think of a plausible customer for them.
Semi-Lobster
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Indeed, there's simply no market for the J-8II anymore, its too expensive to operate, its intended primary role (interception) is redundant for all but the largest countries, and its far too specialised (limited multi-role capabilities which is an important factor for smaller air forces) for any budget conscious customer. The J-8H/F/T maybe have excellent long range radar and a very good top speed but at the end of the day, most countries don't need an aircraft like that.
Just another question:
Regarding the J-8R/J-8FR or as I prefer JZ-8F I have a question: The number on the aircraft below is 50101 and indicated therefore the 39. Division ?? ... I thought the recce-J-8 were formerly assigned to the 4th Independent Fighter Reconnaissance Regiment with 3xx3 numbers based at Shenyang Yu Hung Tun !!???
Can anyone help me out PLEASE:
Deino
Regarding the J-8R/J-8FR or as I prefer JZ-8F I have a question: The number on the aircraft below is 50101 and indicated therefore the 39. Division ?? ... I thought the recce-J-8 were formerly assigned to the 4th Independent Fighter Reconnaissance Regiment with 3xx3 numbers based at Shenyang Yu Hung Tun !!???
Can anyone help me out PLEASE:
Deino
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Semi-Lobster
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Yup, thats' the J-8G, Shenyang's 'SEAD on a budget' aircraft. Not the most technically advanced aircraft to undertake such a mission but its cheaper than a JH-7A I guess and its very fast, with long legs. Franky I'm surprised Shenyang hadn't tried this sooner.
CAn You just help me out, why this is a "G" ????
In mind of the older radar (without that cut-out and the missing "stripes" and esp. with only one wing-fence per wing I think that's just an old "D" model !!??
I'm a bit confused to admit, Deino
Semi-Lobster
Junior Member
CAn You just help me out, why this is a "G" ????
In mind of the older radar (without that cut-out and the missing "stripes" and esp. with only one wing-fence per wing I think that's just an old "D" model !!??
I'm a bit confused to admit, Deino
The J-8G is infact, just rejigged J-8D. You can tell its a J-8G by its rather large payload of air-to-ground missiles located at the centreline where the droptank is usually located.
the MiG-15 and MiG-15UTI in China
Deino once again with a silly or maybe even stupid question, as such time to re-vive this tread … this time regarding on old type (in fact not my personal darling !), the MiG-15 and MiG-15UTI in China.
Fact is that that in early 1950, with China entering the war in Korea on the horizon, MANY MiG-15 were delivered via the SU to the PLAAF.
Said is that in line with the build-up of a modern aircraft industry under the guidance of Soviet experts, the SU sent 847 MiG-15 engineers and specialists to China to begin construction of the fighters by October of 1951.
However no MiG-15 or MiG-15bis was ever manufactured in China since this agreement was changed to the MiG-17 (aka J-5).
1. The still mysterious question therefore remains – in my opinion it is only some kind of Western invention or misinformation which over the years became FACT – why is the MiG-15/MiG-15bis called J-2 ??
2. And then, since the Chinese aircraft industry / Shenyang built the MiG-15UTI trainer versions of the MiG-15 … is this really called JJ-2 ?? Again there are many contradicting reports on that !
3. Besides that … are there any information available about the numbers of MiG-15 delivered and esp. the number of each version and/or MiG-15UTI produced ??
Thanks in advance, Deino
Deino once again with a silly or maybe even stupid question, as such time to re-vive this tread … this time regarding on old type (in fact not my personal darling !), the MiG-15 and MiG-15UTI in China.
Fact is that that in early 1950, with China entering the war in Korea on the horizon, MANY MiG-15 were delivered via the SU to the PLAAF.
Said is that in line with the build-up of a modern aircraft industry under the guidance of Soviet experts, the SU sent 847 MiG-15 engineers and specialists to China to begin construction of the fighters by October of 1951.
However no MiG-15 or MiG-15bis was ever manufactured in China since this agreement was changed to the MiG-17 (aka J-5).
1. The still mysterious question therefore remains – in my opinion it is only some kind of Western invention or misinformation which over the years became FACT – why is the MiG-15/MiG-15bis called J-2 ??
2. And then, since the Chinese aircraft industry / Shenyang built the MiG-15UTI trainer versions of the MiG-15 … is this really called JJ-2 ?? Again there are many contradicting reports on that !
3. Besides that … are there any information available about the numbers of MiG-15 delivered and esp. the number of each version and/or MiG-15UTI produced ??
Thanks in advance, Deino