The Kashmir conflict 2025.
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There were Russians themselves over Syria.
I personally feel least conveinced by anecdotal evidence on EW - Indians themselves boasted a lot, how rafales jammed su-35s in Egypt. Su-35s never even been there, and as for rafale (and indians) - you can see how it has eventually turned out.
I wasn't there, but i am sceptical this action involved epic fighter EW fight the way it's portrayed. Ranges were so extreme, that rafales either couldn't see opponents at all, or even a relatively mild noise type countermeasure could've been enough. Rbe2 is weak in the first place, and it's a relatively... underperforming as AESA, because the french changed front end without replacing the radome.
I.e. fighter jammer, in my opinion, is the least likely MVP.
If there's something with potential - it's big datalink jammers. Especially since it already happened last time.
P.s. state of the art AESA destroyer screwing over poor growler without NGJ is kinda normal to me.
Yes, growler is generating jamming signal, but in the end it's 1960s basic pod working off RATs. Destroyer is just a bigger dog.
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Or like the 40 Chinese airbases in mountains or underground?
I think kill web or kill mesh is a more accurate term.
Do we have scrutinised evidence that one of the Rafale pilots sent that to his sister?
I think you're confused. The Rafale can carry a lot more than 3 drop tanks plus 2 meteor AAMs. What you're showing for the Eurofighter is "beast mode". Beast mode is not useful or realistic. The Rafale pilot says if they can carry 2 meteors to an air superiority fight, they are happy. That means giving those 2 meteors the best chance at doing damage. Flying beast mode kills your range by a LONG shot and kills your energy - departing energy on those missiles. It should also kill your altitude and speed to position. All things that degrade the effectiveness of those BVR AAMs.
J-10C can carry 6x PL-15 missiles with 2x PL-10 and 3x drop tanks in its known "beast mode". The problem with this is like having 2 kids vs having 6 kids with the exact same resources available. Which scenario, assuming all factors equal and kids talents etc are identical, do you think produces the better overall outcome?
Beast mode was entirely some USAF fanboy bullshittery joke made to fool NAFO morons who didn't pass year 9 science class. There is always a price to be paid. beast mode is never used in real life and I applaud that French Rafale pilot for injecting some semblance of reality and truth to the fanboy echochambers.
In real combat it's unlikely late model F-15s would even carry more than 6 BVR missiles and the F-15 is an absolute champ at doing this beast mode. The only 4th gen fighter that matches is Flanker series with up to 10 BVRs. Main reason is need for fuel tank and aircraft's comparative internal fuel storage volumes. There were talks about Flanker's performance being significantly degraded carrying this many due to the fuselage tunnel's aerodynamic purpose being compromised but I don't know the accuracy of that take.
Light fighters like J-10 would rarely go beyond carrying 4 BVRs to an air superiority fight without unnecessarily doing an injustice to those missiles. Drop tanks are more important than fanboys realise and total number of missiles are less important. Certainly not to the extent it's discussed online esp relating to "beast mode" conversations which have no place in any serious discussion.
Rafale pilot is 100% correct although it could potentially be extended to 4. I think he might be underselling Rafale's ability to carry 4 and depart good energy but it's a breath of fresh air to internet morons talking about stupid numbers of BVRs being carried to the point of stalling a fighter.
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It's 2 or 4 shots that can push opposition fighters back or even score a kill vs 10 missiles off the rail at barely mach 1 and half the altitude that get "defeated" by 2 turns of the targeted fighter.
Su-57 has multiple AESA panels and Russia has multiple 65 nm fabs capabilities that India doesn't. They also have a mature Soviet era 0.18 - 1 um industry for mixed signal and RF uses (i.e. MIC uses).
India only has a single 180 nm silicon fab as its best. There is no comparison between the 2. Based on the state of their semiconductor industries, India is far behind Russia.
Something like that. Maybe I'm a bit old fashioned, I like to think of total war being the bottom line of any military planning, small scale skirmishes like this conflict is just a side show.
China has lots of strategic depth, lots of airfields lots of assets, yet even China was that paranoid against Soviet threat; Pakistan has little strategic depth, small number of airfields and small number of assets, Pakistan should be ten times as paranoid as China was
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There's a J-10D prototype?
“D” was specifically in quotation marks(with D referring to 电, not consecutive letter). There's no such official version.
I'm talking about the prototype with electronics board in aerodynamic shadow on the back, like some F-16s.
Appearance of this board is a sure sign there's no volume inside anymore.