Sometimes the best medicine is humble pie. Some have been skipping meals. It is time for them to eat up. When will they learn? Do they want the benefits of BRICS or not? Then they have to play the game.
The Kashmir conflict 2025.
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From that I know, both by s-200, and public attribution of one to patriot is ass leaking. But it doesn't matter that much, because ultimately patriot pac-2 lacks range to make AWACS combat-ineffective (A-50 provide around 200km range against terrain-huggers, probably less v LO). S-200D outright throw them into irrelevance (they can't do anything ground radars don't).
To be fair, part of the problem is AWACS themselves; Pakistani and Indian flying radars are simply better tech.
If true then it's a noble act - the pilot did his part in ensuring that the jet didn't crash into a populated area.
Some Youtube armchair generals that used to make videos bashing Chinese planes are now cheerleading for the J-10.
All those years of efforts to infiltrate Washington, like Zionists, into positions of power and influence ("CEO's", FBI chief, news anchors, VP wife, etc) only to yield this result has to be infuriating.
Rivet Joint and MQ-9C flew openly (on public radar) in the Black Sea; maybe even AWACS, until drone incident with Russia. Since then, USAF doesn't often display open presence.
Plane fell in this 800m area between two villages,
..which is about 15km from Bhatinda AFS.
There is more open area towards the AFS; 800m is kinda tight, but whatever. Also, crash site is not aligned with the runway, so we can deduce it wasn't attempting a landing.
The issue I am talking about here is RoE. PAF could see IAF coming in, but couldn't shoot, until IAF started bombing the camps. Similarly IAF wasn't supposed fire against Pakistani military in any way unless fired upon.
What this means is that IAF was allowed the first hit on the camps. While PAF was allowed the first hit on IAF.
The results point in the same direction. The target camps were pretty much all hit. While PAF scored multiple IAF aircraft.
Over the next 3 days, despite its intensity, the result of the air battle was a draw. Because the RoE changed to open for all. If PAF was that superior as people are making it out to be, it would have been different.
Pissed off US by rejecting its contribution to negotiate peace.
Russia is happy because SU-57 deal was off so there was no reputational hit.